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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:01 pm 
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Sugar just needs to pack his bags.....

dunno about the rest...

Well clearly that's not going to happen if he is immediately named after a week off with injury.

clearly patience isnt infinite ......

wont be too much longer...his carry might be needed.. but his general ineptitude isnt.

just watch him when the game tightens up...... :lol:

the perfect downhill skier minus skills

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:09 pm 
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So left the game last reflecting, apart from being in semi shock as we've come to expect this sort of result from our team over the past 4 to 5 years.

Here goes:
We have players who are mentally weak.
We have players who are not fit enough to play the modern game for all 120 minutes.
We have an abundance of players who cannot kick accurately, thus costing us many games - this comes to lack of technique and poor recruiting criteria.
We have players who "sleep with the lights on at night" in big games.
We don't have an effective F50 entry system - this has been non existent since the halcyon days in the mid to late 90's.
This list will definitely not take us to no.17, let alone make any impact, in the remote chance, we make finals this year.
We have some players who are improving at a good rate - eg. Casboult, Cachia

What this means:
Biggest list overhaul in recent years required - PLAYERS THAT CAN HIT A TARGET and KICK BETWEEN THE BIG STICKS - one of the key criteria
Mentally and physically tough players - bring in some extroverts FFS.
Trade/draft using a 'moneyball' philosophy - players that can kick but are not getting games at other clubs - eg. like Scotland

Was in semi shock from the result, but supporting this MEDIOCRE team - at BEST - is getting boring. :roll:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:14 pm 
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Wangers wrote:
So left the game last reflecting, apart from being in semi shock as we've come to expect this sort of result from our team over the past 4 to 5 years.

Here goes:
We have players who are mentally weak.
We have players who are not fit enough to play the modern game for all 120 minutes.
We have an abundance of players who cannot kick accurately, thus costing us many games - this comes to lack of technique and poor recruiting criteria.
We have players who "sleep with the lights on at night" in big games.
We don't have an effective F50 entry system - this has been non existent since the halcyon days in the mid to late 90's.
This list will definitely not take us to no.17, let alone make any impact, in the remote chance, we make finals this year.
We have some players who are improving at a good rate - eg. Casboult, Cachia

What this means:
Biggest list overhaul in recent years required - PLAYERS THAT CAN HIT A TARGET and KICK BETWEEN THE BIG STICKS - one of the key criteria
Mentally and physically tough players - bring in some extroverts FFS.
Trade/draft using a 'moneyball' philosophy - players that can kick but are not getting games at other clubs - eg. like Scotland

Was in semi shock from the result, but supporting this MEDIOCRE team - at BEST - is getting boring. :roll:



you only need to cull the weakest links.. they drag down the others.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:21 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Wangers wrote:
So left the game last reflecting, apart from being in semi shock as we've come to expect this sort of result from our team over the past 4 to 5 years.

Here goes:
We have players who are mentally weak.
We have players who are not fit enough to play the modern game for all 120 minutes.
We have an abundance of players who cannot kick accurately, thus costing us many games - this comes to lack of technique and poor recruiting criteria.
We have players who "sleep with the lights on at night" in big games.
We don't have an effective F50 entry system - this has been non existent since the halcyon days in the mid to late 90's.
This list will definitely not take us to no.17, let alone make any impact, in the remote chance, we make finals this year.
We have some players who are improving at a good rate - eg. Casboult, Cachia

What this means:
Biggest list overhaul in recent years required - PLAYERS THAT CAN HIT A TARGET and KICK BETWEEN THE BIG STICKS - one of the key criteria
Mentally and physically tough players - bring in some extroverts FFS.
Trade/draft using a 'moneyball' philosophy - players that can kick but are not getting games at other clubs - eg. like Scotland

Was in semi shock from the result, but supporting this MEDIOCRE team - at BEST - is getting boring. :roll:



you only need to cull the weakest links.. they drag down the others.


There's a few of them in that 22 last night and this year, Synners.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:23 pm 
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We need pacey mids & all kinds of forwards

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:28 pm 
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we need more hbfers .....
talls that cant touch their toes
mids that are scared and cant kick....
and all kinds of useless bits n pieces

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:37 pm 
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This result was pre-ordained. Any time a game is even remotely thought of as season-defining we drop our bundle. Every single time. We have nothing even approaching the mindset needed to win a flag. We're so far from it that it isn't even a distant speck on the horizon. If Malthouse can turn this team into genuine contenders it will, without question, make him the greatest coach of the modern era.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:46 pm 
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muzza wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Essendon* are crap....
We have players that cant play a big game .. they cant stand up in big games.
They need to be culled...
They are a virus on the team....
You cant have guys in the side that cant do the big game things. Run harder.. kick.. tackle.. stand up in tackles

That was just weak!!!...

Get rid of the pathetic weak ones and it will turn around....!!!

BTW i loved Casboults game tonight.
He was the highlight for us.... except for a freaky first half by Waite.
Judd tried to life but his body couldnt give more.
Curnow was good ....
Tuohy needs to get more of the ball.
Simon White is a depth player...

and finally we get to Kane Lurkus ......Lurkus is ust sit!!!..... he is shit!!!... not because of the missed goal.... hes just shit!!!....
We ve had seagulls who could execute with skills... but ive never seen a seagull make a side who is so unskilled.
He doesnt stand up in tackles.. he cant tackle.. he cant win a contested ball... he goes under the ball in a marking contest cos its the easy way.....
To think we demoted Menzel for Lurkus...
OMG we have a guy who is deficient in playing pressure cooker footy in the side.. and hes a pick in the top dozen...!!!



The good thing is... the coach would start to get a good idea about who can play and who cant.



C'mon Synbad ... you know why we lost that game.

A completely inept coaching performance by the super duper coach. Out coached by the golden boy in every department.

Let me count the ways ... I have a list if you want. Talk about PATHETIC. We should never have lost this match ... His decisions after half time make my blood boil ... :hitcomputer: :hitcomputer: :mad: :mad:

Well I guess we always have the 10 year MM plan.

Another reason we lost was that Carrots didn't play ... :lol:

The sooner we get rid of MM the better.

You seriously think that golden boy coaches that side? He is the puppet. The puppeteer is the bloke they stole from Geelong


Either way ... a disgraceful coaching performance.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:51 pm 
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Really disappointing second time this year leading by two or three goals at three quarter time to be run over by both Essendon* and Collingwood - sign of mentally weak side - should have won easily after the boulter kicked that goal - who didn't think we weren't going to win when bombers got a goal behind - smell the fear - lost to esendon and bloody tigers by less than a goal - mentally weak - don't even get me started on that bloody game against stkilda mentally weak - intimidated continually by sides like Collingwood and geelong - mentally weak - every time we have a chance to cement a spot in the eight we squib it - see matches against esendon and stkilda -MENTALLY BLOODY WEAK
SICK OF IT - one last chance next week to show some bloody character and mental toughness - beat hawthorn and give us something


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:53 pm 
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SA Blue wrote:
keogh wrote:
kingkerna wrote:
I thought Gibbs was fine last night, plenty of others need to lift more than him.



you have no idea
Gibbs wasnt fine
he craps himself when he gets the ball consequently he turns it over too much
his kicking is shit for an AFL footballer
over rated
rather than give a response which involves some pathetic personal attack give all of us one game in Gibbs' long career where he has actually been influential in a big game. otherwise dont bother replying.

You friend have little idea about football



I assume by your name that you are from SA
the same state that golden boy once dominated your local comp when he was a teenager
that my friend says it all


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:54 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Wangers wrote:
So left the game last reflecting, apart from being in semi shock as we've come to expect this sort of result from our team over the past 4 to 5 years.

Here goes:
We have players who are mentally weak.
We have players who are not fit enough to play the modern game for all 120 minutes.
We have an abundance of players who cannot kick accurately, thus costing us many games - this comes to lack of technique and poor recruiting criteria.
We have players who "sleep with the lights on at night" in big games.
We don't have an effective F50 entry system - this has been non existent since the halcyon days in the mid to late 90's.
This list will definitely not take us to no.17, let alone make any impact, in the remote chance, we make finals this year.
We have some players who are improving at a good rate - eg. Casboult, Cachia

What this means:
Biggest list overhaul in recent years required - PLAYERS THAT CAN HIT A TARGET and KICK BETWEEN THE BIG STICKS - one of the key criteria
Mentally and physically tough players - bring in some extroverts FFS.
Trade/draft using a 'moneyball' philosophy - players that can kick but are not getting games at other clubs - eg. like Scotland

Was in semi shock from the result, but supporting this MEDIOCRE team - at BEST - is getting boring. :roll:



you only need to cull the weakest links.. they drag down the others.


You are a year or so too late with this latest angle Synbad. If anyone said this stuff last year you were shooting them down because it disagreed with your then angle.

You keep this place interesting. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:57 pm 
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GWS wrote:
King Kenny wrote:
!@#$%& that we won, umpire review !@#$%& up again.


Except they evened up with Eddie's.


Eddies was a goal, you can see on the replay.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:03 pm 
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We have no leaders. It's as simple as that.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:06 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Wangers wrote:
So left the game last reflecting, apart from being in semi shock as we've come to expect this sort of result from our team over the past 4 to 5 years.

Here goes:
We have players who are mentally weak.
We have players who are not fit enough to play the modern game for all 120 minutes.
We have an abundance of players who cannot kick accurately, thus costing us many games - this comes to lack of technique and poor recruiting criteria.
We have players who "sleep with the lights on at night" in big games.
We don't have an effective F50 entry system - this has been non existent since the halcyon days in the mid to late 90's.
This list will definitely not take us to no.17, let alone make any impact, in the remote chance, we make finals this year.
We have some players who are improving at a good rate - eg. Casboult, Cachia

What this means:
Biggest list overhaul in recent years required - PLAYERS THAT CAN HIT A TARGET and KICK BETWEEN THE BIG STICKS - one of the key criteria
Mentally and physically tough players - bring in some extroverts FFS.
Trade/draft using a 'moneyball' philosophy - players that can kick but are not getting games at other clubs - eg. like Scotland

Was in semi shock from the result, but supporting this MEDIOCRE team - at BEST - is getting boring. :roll:



you only need to cull the weakest links.. they drag down the others.


You are a year or so too late with this latest angle Synbad. If anyone said this stuff last year you were shooting them down because it disagreed with your then angle.

You keep this place interesting. :thumbsup:



Hold on

Last year we had a coach who had 5 seasons and 6 games to fix a list
In fact he traded an early pick for Brock.. lost confdence in him .. and let him rot in the reseves till he had to call n him again.
He went for a zillion hbfers that are not superflous
He signed Davies and Joseph on multiple season contracts.
And he didnt make any real calls on anything or anyone.
Not only did we lose season defining games in home and away but we ost finals ike this too..

And still he didnt do anything.... if he stayed he still woudnt have done anything... he would have blamed ourneyman rookie Curnow.. or CHF Hampson ;

He had to go.... now we have a coach finding his way with the list and getting his head around it.

The coach had to go so we can see there were at!!... yes no??

or are you Solomon by telling us even after all that... Ratten should have stayed...!!!

This is Ratten/McKays list.....!!!

Ratten is responsible along with our recruiters... and development people.

Ultimately Sticks is the problem... cos thats where it all starts and ends.
Apha to Omega

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:12 pm 
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Wangers wrote:
So left the game last reflecting, apart from being in semi shock as we've come to expect this sort of result from our team over the past 4 to 5 years.

Here goes:
We have players who are mentally weak.
We have players who are not fit enough to play the modern game for all 120 minutes.
We have an abundance of players who cannot kick accurately, thus costing us many games - this comes to lack of technique and poor recruiting criteria.
We have players who "sleep with the lights on at night" in big games.
We don't have an effective F50 entry system - this has been non existent since the halcyon days in the mid to late 90's.
This list will definitely not take us to no.17, let alone make any impact, in the remote chance, we make finals this year.
We have some players who are improving at a good rate - eg. Casboult, Cachia

What this means:
Biggest list overhaul in recent years required - PLAYERS THAT CAN HIT A TARGET and KICK BETWEEN THE BIG STICKS - one of the key criteria
Mentally and physically tough players - bring in some extroverts FFS.
Trade/draft using a 'moneyball' philosophy - players that can kick but are not getting games at other clubs - eg. like Scotland

Was in semi shock from the result, but supporting this MEDIOCRE team - at BEST - is getting boring. :roll:


Are you saying extroverts are naturally mentally tougher than introverts? I would have said Bruce Doull for example was mentally tough, but by all accounts was a big introvert


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:18 pm 
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We played like we were complete strangers last night. It was like they had all just met.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:22 pm 
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JohnM wrote:
This result was pre-ordained. Any time a game is even remotely thought of as season-defining we drop our bundle. Every single time. We have nothing even approaching the mindset needed to win a flag. We're so far from it that it isn't even a distant speck on the horizon. If Malthouse can turn this team into genuine contenders it will, without question, make him the greatest coach of the modern era.

"For the first time under MM, you feel the Blues are ready to do some damage come finals" - Bruce McAvaney (2nd qtr)

We showed you buddy :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:22 pm 
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unfortunately guys we are getting back to old ground
that synners and I have been banging on for years


THE BOARD NEEDS TO GO
STANDARDS LIFTED

Guys dropped for not putting their body on the line

consequences guys it aint rocket science


back onto Gibbs
He is soft as butter
listening SA blue
as soft as butter

dont know what he was like at the Tigers but

He is as soft as butter

now it can be argued that if he was dropped to the Northern Blues because of it it wouldnt make the slighest difference

fact is he has never been dropped

and that is the perfect example on why we are average
the club accepts it by its own action which is
do @#$%&! all
and standards stay where they have been for over a decade
at a low level
In pressure cooker games softies like
Gibbs and Yarran will cost you


SA blue I know my footy and I can put up with some things but not guys squibbing it

They shouldnt belong to the club I support

If it was me I wouldnt play Yarran or Gibbs next week and tell them why.


Otherwise we are treading water


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:27 pm 
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Wangers wrote:
So left the game last reflecting, apart from being in semi shock as we've come to expect this sort of result from our team over the past 4 to 5 years.

Here goes:
We have players who are mentally weak.
We have players who are not fit enough to play the modern game for all 120 minutes.
We have an abundance of players who cannot kick accurately, thus costing us many games - this comes to lack of technique and poor recruiting criteria.
We have players who "sleep with the lights on at night" in big games.
We don't have an effective F50 entry system - this has been non existent since the halcyon days in the mid to late 90's.
This list will definitely not take us to no.17, let alone make any impact, in the remote chance, we make finals this year.
We have some players who are improving at a good rate - eg. Casboult, Cachia

What this means:
Biggest list overhaul in recent years required - PLAYERS THAT CAN HIT A TARGET and KICK BETWEEN THE BIG STICKS - one of the key criteria
Mentally and physically tough players - bring in some extroverts FFS.
Trade/draft using a 'moneyball' philosophy - players that can kick but are not getting games at other clubs - eg. like Scotland

Was in semi shock from the result, but supporting this MEDIOCRE team - at BEST - is getting boring. :roll:

That means starting from scratch :lol:

Undoing the damage done under the Ratten regime will take time...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:35 pm 
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mots wrote:
We have no leaders. It's as simple as that.


McLean is a decent leader out on the ground....but we got him from another club like our former captain.

I think next year Jamison and Henderson need to put their hand up for leadership roles.

Still lack a leader up forward, Waite played well but he isn't a leader. If you play Henderson forward and let him grow into that role then maybe we would have one.


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