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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:52 am 
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Hooooooooolio, got it wrong ie Brock was on the trip!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:55 am 
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If the AFL pushes ahead with its 2 sub, 2 interchange bench scenario for season 2014. Then players who can run all day like Brock McLean and Nicholas Graham :wink: - become all the more valuable towards the end of games regardless of their pace, or lack thereof.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:31 am 
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Why base your recruiting on a rule that may be transient?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:29 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
Why base your recruiting on a rule that may be transient?


Because footballers are transient


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:31 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
Why base your recruiting on a rule that may be transient?


..i agree with your question, but isn't this what recruiters do..?.. ..i mean, to a certain extent you recruit with rules/tactics in mind.. ..not just in regards to endurance, but trends in games.. ..for a while it was athletic freaks, then old fashioned footballers, long left foot kickers, fleet footed outside players, contested ball winning inside monsters, leaping rucks, power rucks, burst impact types etc etc..

..because the game is ever-changing, either due to AFL rule tweaking, or coaching trends, every few years there's a shift in recruiting, either for type of player or which players get picked when, these days it's midfielders ruling the draft just like the awards..

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:40 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
Why base your recruiting on a rule that may be transient?



That well maybe but havn't seen the AFL in the past few years roll any rules back.

And it looks like unless "Chester" Anderson gets the flick soon that the 2+2 Interchange/Sub rule is coming in.

Its probably another reason why we took Troy Menzel, because as he takes on the 3rd forward spot it will release Andrew Walker to midfield, and as we know Andrew can run all day (and fast too :wink: ).

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:14 pm 
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All in all I think we have done pretty well.

Real depth added to our list and have not lost anyone of significance.

The positive for me is the real depth and body size added around the ball. Something we have lacked.

McLean, Robinson, Bell, Cachia, Ellard, Curnow, Touhy, Duigan are real "hard heads' that will add toughness all over the ground.

Judd (now free of the captaincy burden), Murphy, Gibbs, Yarran, Lucas, Simpson, Menzel, Betts provide the class.

The real key for 2013 is the ability of our talls to get near their potential and stay injury free. Consistency from most of Kruezer, Warnock, Hampson, Casboult, Jamison, Henderson, Watson, Mitchell will make the difference.

Add that to the defensive structure and the ability to get the best from teams by Malthouse and 2013 is something to look forward to! :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:28 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
All in all I think we have done pretty well.

Real depth added to our list and have not lost anyone of significance.

The positive for me is the real depth and body size added around the ball. Something we have lacked.

McLean, Robinson, Bell, Cachia, Ellard, Curnow, Touhy, Duigan are real "hard heads' that will add toughness all over the ground.

Judd (now free of the captaincy burden), Murphy, Gibbs, Yarran, Lucas, Simpson, Menzel, Betts provide the class.

The real key for 2013 is the ability of our talls to get near their potential and stay injury free. Consistency from most of Kruezer, Warnock, Hampson, Casboult, Jamison, Henderson, Watson, Mitchell will make the difference.

Add that to the defensive structure and the ability to get the best from teams by Malthouse and 2013 is something to look forward to! :thumbsup:


I have to agree - I think that it was the Adelaide game where Vince, Dangerfield and that other blonde player (name escapes me) that monstered us around the ball which exposed us as such weaklings around the contested ball situation.

Players like Cachia and Bell etc address the strength part of the equation not sure if they have the speed, but hopefully they will clear a path for Murphy, Judd, Gibbs, Simpson, Yarran etc to run amok.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:39 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
All in all I think we have done pretty well.

Real depth added to our list and have not lost anyone of significance.

The positive for me is the real depth and body size added around the ball. Something we have lacked.

McLean, Robinson, Bell, Cachia, Ellard, Curnow, Touhy, Duigan are real "hard heads' that will add toughness all over the ground.

Judd (now free of the captaincy burden), Murphy, Gibbs, Yarran, Lucas, Simpson, Menzel, Betts provide the class.

The real key for 2013 is the ability of our talls to get near their potential and stay injury free. Consistency from most of Kruezer, Warnock, Hampson, Casboult, Jamison, Henderson, Watson, Mitchell will make the difference.

Add that to the defensive structure and the ability to get the best from teams by Malthouse and 2013 is something to look forward to! :thumbsup:


I have to agree - I think that it was the Adelaide game where Vince, Dangerfield and that other blonde player (name escapes me) that monstered us around the ball which exposed us as such weaklings around the contested ball situation.

Players like Cachia and Bell etc address the strength part of the equation not sure if they have the speed, but hopefully they will clear a oath for Murphy, Judd, Gibbs, Simpson, Yarran etc to run amok .



I don't think swearing at the opposition will help out much. :?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:17 am 
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I've defended these guys as much as I can but come the end of the year tough decisions need to be made.

Put simply our list doesn't have the ability, skill or depth to challenge for a top 4 spot. For whatever reason a lot of our kids haven't stepped up.

IMO I would keep:

Walker
Menzel
Murphy
Judd
Gibbs
Henderson
Simpson
Kruezer
Lucas
Warnock
Robinson
McLean?
Bootsma
Temay
McInnes
Armfield
Carrazzo
Waite
Casboult
Garlett
Jamison
White
Ellard?
Tuohy
Bell

Trade:

Yarran
Hampson
Laidler


Delist (or Trade):

Watson
McCarthy
Mitchell
OKeefe
Rowe
Scotland (retired)
Duigan
Collins
Davies
Cachia
Curnow
Dale
Buckley

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:26 am 
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Gee whiz :eek:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:21 am 
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Wow WEE........!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:26 am 
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Does making changes at the bottom end of the list really fix the problem?

Do we have the guts to make changes at the top end?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:33 am 
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Buckley shouldn't be on that list Psych.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:39 am 
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Walker
Menzel
Henderson
Garlett

would be my only untouchables

the rest .... see what we can get

oh probably stuck with Judd too - sad watching him run around lately.

so 5 keepers

play the market !!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:42 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Does making changes at the bottom end of the list really fix the problem?

Do we have the guts to make changes at the top end?


Yeah, I know what you mean, you must give up something to gain something and draft picks (at least in the first two rounds) are precious.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:45 am 
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Yarran is untouchable imo...literally when he gets on his bike.

He's the type you need to keep. Kicks well, breaks lines....just a terrible sub....but that wasn't his choice...BIG MM mistake that one imo.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:47 am 
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doesnt do it often enough

see whats on offer

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:49 am 
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For the right price id trade yaz
But itd have to be a good young player and first rounder.
I know giants were keen


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:52 am 
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grrofunger wrote:
doesnt do it often enough

see whats on offer



But when he does......he's hot.

Like the rest of our team...isn't the problem between the ears, other than Casboults kicking and Kreuzer's marng...although Kreuzer imo can improve his marking if he gets the right development.

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