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17th Premiership
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:35 am 
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I think Robbo has been down since he got knocked out.
Players looking back often admit they took a few weeks to get right after concussion.
I'd be tempted to give him a week off. But we really need his toughness against the Hawks.
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CK95
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Synbad wrote:
We need a mini rebuild....!!!

There is no !@#$%& way we wont cut deep....!!!...



Doesn't sound mini then.

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cimm1979
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King Kenny wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
The recruiting does need addressing and hopefully the addition of Williams will make a difference.

I thought the picks of Temay, Graham and Menzel were good but I dont get the pick of Cachia. Handy player but does he add to or improve our list?

Someone like Colquhoun or Garlett would of been better. Rookies should be for talented kids with a spot for a Mature Aged ruckman. How many of these kids step up and become good players?

Duigan, Cachia, Curnow, Joseph can go. Add nothing. Big decisons on McCarthy, Watson, Mitchell, OKeefe, Davies, Collins, Dale & Ellard.

Personally I don't care if they all go.

Need to go after some talented young guns via trade if we can and hopefully stockpile some picks for the draft.


Tough on Cachia. Is proving he belongs and deserved his second chance.


You have to look at the posters history on Cachia .

He's been spruiking "wasted pick" for months. He's finding it hard to come to terms with the evidence.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:37 am 
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cimm1979 wrote:
King Kenny wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
The recruiting does need addressing and hopefully the addition of Williams will make a difference.

I thought the picks of Temay, Graham and Menzel were good but I dont get the pick of Cachia. Handy player but does he add to or improve our list?

Someone like Colquhoun or Garlett would of been better. Rookies should be for talented kids with a spot for a Mature Aged ruckman. How many of these kids step up and become good players?

Duigan, Cachia, Curnow, Joseph can go. Add nothing. Big decisons on McCarthy, Watson, Mitchell, OKeefe, Davies, Collins, Dale & Ellard.

Personally I don't care if they all go.

Need to go after some talented young guns via trade if we can and hopefully stockpile some picks for the draft.


Tough on Cachia. Is proving he belongs and deserved his second chance.


You have to look at the posters history on Cachia .

He's been spruiking "wasted pick" for months. He's finding it hard to come to terms with the evidence.


Simple as that imo.

Cachia isn't the problem. He's the best we've got at the moment. Who is Cachia keeping out?

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muzza
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:40 am 
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Get Jeff Kennett :lol:
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:40 am 
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psl84 wrote:
Not sure if the small forward combination has been that ordinary for a while? Especially when it promised so much tonight


The small forward combination was not used properly by the players up the ground, all night it was kick it up and let Waite take a speccy, no one looked for the smaller guys or to get inside fifty with run.
Poor coaching not to address this at half time.

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blues8182
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:46 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Essendon* are crap....
We have players that cant play a big game .. they cant stand up in big games.
They need to be culled...
They are a virus on the team....
You cant have guys in the side that cant do the big game things. Run harder.. kick.. tackle.. stand up in tackles

That was just weak!!!...

Get rid of the pathetic weak ones and it will turn around....!!!

BTW i loved Casboults game tonight.
He was the highlight for us.... except for a freaky first half by Waite.
Judd tried to life but his body couldnt give more.
Curnow was good ....
Tuohy needs to get more of the ball.
Simon White is a depth player...

and finally we get to Kane Lurkus ......Lurkus is ust sit!!!..... he is shit!!!... not because of the missed goal.... hes just shit!!!....
We ve had seagulls who could execute with skills... but ive never seen a seagull make a side who is so unskilled.
He doesnt stand up in tackles.. he cant tackle.. he cant win a contested ball... he goes under the ball in a marking contest cos its the easy way.....
To think we demoted Menzel for Lurkus...
OMG we have a guy who is deficient in playing pressure cooker footy in the side.. and hes a pick in the top dozen...!!!



The good thing is... the coach would start to get a good idea about who can play and who cant.


Sinners disagree re White, I thought he played well.

You're singing to the choir as far as Lucas is concerned, the bloke is a lazy spud.

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blues8182 wrote:
psl84 wrote:
Not sure if the small forward combination has been that ordinary for a while? Especially when it promised so much tonight


The small forward combination was not used properly by the players up the ground, all night it was kick it up and let Waite take a speccy, no one looked for the smaller guys or to get inside fifty with run.
Poor coaching not to address this at half time.

I think one thing we can all agree on

SAKC BARKER!!!

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bondiblue wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
King Kenny wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
The recruiting does need addressing and hopefully the addition of Williams will make a difference.

I thought the picks of Temay, Graham and Menzel were good but I dont get the pick of Cachia. Handy player but does he add to or improve our list?

Someone like Colquhoun or Garlett would of been better. Rookies should be for talented kids with a spot for a Mature Aged ruckman. How many of these kids step up and become good players?

Duigan, Cachia, Curnow, Joseph can go. Add nothing. Big decisons on McCarthy, Watson, Mitchell, OKeefe, Davies, Collins, Dale & Ellard.

Personally I don't care if they all go.

Need to go after some talented young guns via trade if we can and hopefully stockpile some picks for the draft.


Tough on Cachia. Is proving he belongs and deserved his second chance.


You have to look at the posters history on Cachia .

He's been spruiking "wasted pick" for months. He's finding it hard to come to terms with the evidence.


Simple as that imo.

Cachia isn't the problem. He's the best we've got at the moment. Who is Cachia keeping out?


agree with cimm and BB.
now, pass me that valium & scotch, please.

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blues8182
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Agro jr wrote:
So explain to me again how Lucas gets a game in front of Bell?


You were all very keen to let me know about it yesterday.


Got me [REDACTED]!!!

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CK95
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:52 am 
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I don't mind Cachia. A couple of efforts on the members wing in the 3rd qtr were terrific. Did a good job.

Lucas yeah not sure. Better players have missed sitters like that so I'm not going to dwell on it too much. My issue is more in general play, as soon as he gets the ball so often he tends to hesitate, even if there's a clear option or if he's in space. Understand he gives us run but can his drawbacks be ironed out?

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blues8182
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:00 am 
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mikkey wrote:
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OUT COACHED... :hitcomputer: :hitcomputer: :hitcomputer:


BULL = you have no idea


Well Mickey, if MM wasn't out coached, he was lazy, blind Freddy could see that we were on dimensional going forward, all we did was look for Waite, if you think having one bloke kick 7 with little impact from any other forward is a winning formula, you have no idea.

Waite was always going to get serious attention after kicking 5 in the first half, where was the contingency plan for that obvious event, why weren't the players instructed to look for other options before Waite after half time and change the way we entered the fifty?

Did any of that happen? No, it was as you were and we'll be right, so the players continued on their merry way kicking it in the air to Jarrad Waite.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:12 am 
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Easy to say this in hindsight but I would have considered moving Henderson forward in the second half. He was playing well back but our conversion in the forward half was poor all night. Sometimes going for the killer punch at that crucial time is what is required to put teams away. We definitely had enough ball to win this match comfortably.
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We have been lucky in a few games where we haven't managed to bury a team and still won. Unfortunately last night was probably the worst night for it to come back to bite us. The Scum were rubbish and did not deserve the win.

One thing I noticed was they always had an extra man in defence and our smalls were nowhere to be seen.

Re the goal review my main issue is they've got the technology and whether or not Garletts shot was a goal or not is kinda irrelevant - it was contentious and should have been looked at regardless
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
We played like north do.


Thats Bullshit.

North would smash us.
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bondiblue wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Shit list management and recruitment.
the cull is on....!!!....

!@#$%& pathetic...!!!

Our drafting...
Lucas
Watson
Grigg
Hampson

4 top 20 picks and nothing to show for it...

This is where your improvement is meant to be coming from.
This is what is meant to be holding you in good stead.

:roll:


Pick 9 Russell
Pick 20 Bower
Pick 25 Hartlett
Pick 35 Austin


Pick 1 Kreuzer...hip issues, weak mark.....he did kick 13 in a row when he had bad hips.
Fix his hips and he gets the yips



FFS please get rid of Wayne Hughes NOW.
I don't even want him to be involve in our next draft at the end of this year.
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missnaut wrote:
Re the goal review my main issue is they've got the technology and whether or not Garletts shot was a goal or not is kinda irrelevant - it was contentious and should have been looked at regardless



The goal ump called it a point. Isn't it only called into review if the goal ump is not sure?

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Bigredisback
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Re heppel he was on judd
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:38 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
The recruiting does need addressing and hopefully the addition of Williams will make a difference.

I thought the picks of Temay, Graham and Menzel were good but I dont get the pick of Cachia. Handy player but does he add to or improve our list?

Someone like Colquhoun or Garlett would of been better. Rookies should be for talented kids with a spot for a Mature Aged ruckman. How many of these kids step up and become good players?

Duigan, Cachia, Curnow, Joseph can go. Add nothing. Big decisons on McCarthy, Watson, Mitchell, OKeefe, Davies, Collins, Dale & Ellard.

Personally I don't care if they all go.

Need to go after some talented young guns via trade if we can and hopefully stockpile some picks for the draft.



Realistically though McCarthy, Mitchell, OKeefe, Davies, Collins,Joseph, Duigan, Hammer(trade), Rowe, and maybe one more in Dale or Watson will be deleted at most . Think it's only 7 seniors plus rookies, but not sure on that. The aim fr next year would be that Cacha, Bell, Ellard, Curnow etc become the the ones not able to get a game , as replaced by newbies and Menzel etc. we lack mids, so we can't delist Curnow , Cachia, Ellard etc until we have replacements. There are too many others having no impact. Then there are still question marks on Laidler, Watson .

I think we will have a young Northern side next year .
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