Not the first time the custodians of this club have wasted money here which in turn meant cutting corners there......


They're killing the club and were supposed to hand over the cash and shut the hell up... No questions...

Terrible decisions.

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The increase in money for the FD you mention - is this to do with more pokies money coming our way, or more to do with the coaching payouts moving off the books?

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Sums up what it's felt like barracking for Carlton for the last 5-6 years.
We're the new Richmond.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

You lot are me last year (when it really was doom and gloom) and I got abused for it because half of you couldn't see it!

It's a lot better this year...you can't expect miracles...it won't heppen overnight, but it wull heppen.

one of two things will happen over the next couple of years I think

either Mick will shake the whole club up in a big way, or, he'll walk away in disgust and we'll continue the path to being Melbourne

he won't hang around with pretenders

Get the same feeling.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Agreed.

shit coaches
shit board
shit recruiting
shit player development
shit captains
do all those things and your going to be average

MM is not a shit coach.
Unlike Pagan, Malthouse may be old fashioned to some degree but he does adjust.
Ratten simply wasn't a very good coach
as I said Sep and Oct this year will be fascinating

...............shit pretend supporters.
We have the whole package so what to do?

First thing you would do is replace the board Then go from there.
Have faith MM will try things. He is already. Playing Murphy more up forward and Cachia in the guts is one example
But the board should have gone years ago

Name names Harks! I don't think anyone is a 'pretend supporter'...they just have differing views of how the club operates.

Do some of you guys read your own posts?

Does it really make one feel better to recite the same old, ad nauseum?
Please tell me how that make one feel better and how it serves a purpose? I'm keen to know but not as keen to become part of the whine.

Say it once, say it twice but to cover the same ground over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.............can you see where I'm going?
Boring isn't it?

Who exactly are you calling a 'shit pretend supporter' though? Pretty damning statement leveled at anyone I would have thought.

Since we're so shit from top to bottom why exclude the supporters?

Maybe we're just thinking a little too much of ourselves to go on rubbishing everyone and everything, bar ourselves.

Maybe we're just part of the whole and deserve what we've got. Maybe.

The supporters are the only great asset this club has apart from the history.

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Do you base our shit supporting on anything in particular?

Everything else has been discussed and reasons why given.

After 10 rounds last year we were 6-4, and thats what we are looking at this year, though we seem to be doing things in reverse. Lost our first 3 this year and improved since, but still nothing special.

What this year shows is our problems last year begun a fair while prior to the wholesale injuries we experienced. I actually think the main thing which has pulled us from our 2011 level to what we are now is the decline of Judd. Malthouse is trying to make a game plan which isn't based on individuals.

But we have won 5 out of 9
We are in the 8
Better depth than last year
Players playing better
Less injuries

What is your problem.....

Which supporters?

Why are we different to Collingwood supporters or Essendon* supporters?

Did we come from a different mould or just born into some superiority right?

Discuss it by all means and I'm all ears but this is shit and that is shit and while I'm it at that is also shit, sounds like...............come on, you know. It sounds like shit. Right?

might not be better than Essendon* or collingwood... but still the best asset the cllub has.
take the supporters we have away and whats left for the club....???

Take the board away.. or the coach away... or the match committee away.... or the president...

wed still continue on ....

you see???.. the best asset this club has is its supporters... not the guys running the club currently...

yes??? no???

its just another way for these guys to see the plain truth...

we can do without them.. they cant do without us....

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