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Just making an observation Chief thats all.


Ive made own observations about credibility over time... :lol:



Nah I am still waiting for an apology from you going all feral about the comments I made about the football dept a couple of months ago, you know given that you have changed your opinion and all.

Re Scott not fussed either way. Now Dean, get him on board asap.

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[quote="SynbadBut see Rod Wadell this is where you bring yourself unstuck.. cos he didnt hold us to ransom... in fact he has signed TWO times for less than he could have got elsewhere...

So how you can say "he held us to ransom is beyond me"

Chief.. im going to ignore needling today.. am i good????? :-D[/quote]

Syneers we all have our favs and Fev is one of yours. Unstuck who says so? We all become unstuck once and awhile - You have been unstuck and Fev has become unstuck big time in the second half of this year with your man Denis and our board!!


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I'm not to fussed about Collo making any statements.
I just want to see consistency of actions.
I dont believe that is being demonstrated.


Im with BV on this.. there is NO obvious plan.. and when something is not obvious its not obvious because theres a reason.....

... in this case NO PLAN.... its just all over the shop.

Thats why the media have laid off the Hawks and we get hammered...!!!

The Hawks have an obvious game plan.....its what we talk about but are unwilling to do....

Where is Hay next year???.... hes a hack!!!... they know it.. but like with Rawlings there is talk about Hay as if he is Carey.....

Because were will we wont we./. Fevs the face now he isnt....(A bit like Katie Moss).. Lance were firm money wise but weve come up 50k and might come up again......... the media dont get into a frenzy about Lance.. who is on par with Hay.... all that happens is we have the Mickey taken out of us.... because were INDECISIVE and LACK LEADERSHIP.....

TOO INDECISIVE!!!

Wrong signals.. theyre too mixed!!!!

Laughing stock material.....


Make a decision.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Look, the problem is if board members dont have the confidence to speak out .. it means they just dont have the confidence so where its a board with say ... 11 members or whatever it is now that SoS has resigned.... it becomes a board of say 5 or 6 with a few hanging on ...
Ideally what we need is a board of 10 or whatever each with the nouse to contribute....

But where to find them????


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[quote="SynbadBut see Rod Wadell this is where you bring yourself unstuck.. cos he didnt hold us to ransom... in fact he has signed TWO times for less than he could have got elsewhere...

So how you can say "he held us to ransom is beyond me"

Chief.. im going to ignore needling today.. am i good????? :-D


Syneers we all have our favs and Fev is one of yours. Unstuck who says so? We all become unstuck once and awhile - You have been unstuck and Fev has become unstuck big time in the second half of this year with your man Denis and our board!![/quote]

Unstuck because YOU SAY he held the club to random and he hasnt.. thats talking silly language...

Show me how he took more from this club than any other club were prepared to pay..

Fev wont be touched by WC only because we told them what we wanted from them....not because they wouldnt pay his dosh!!!!


So again.. how did he hold the club to ransom???

And again i make no apologies for enjoying watching Fev....he is easily the most exciting footballer we have at the moment,.....

Thats also why he gets criticised.. everybody including himself wants him to win ever game off his own boot!!!

EVERYBODY KNOWS HE IS THE ONLY MATCHWINNER THIS CLUB HAS RIGHT HERE .. RIGHT NOW!!!!...

Everybody knows he is our most markatble personality....

You cant have a club full of Carrazzos and Whitnalls...

Its just common sense...

So how did he hold the club to ransom????

Yes i get unstuck.. and so does Fev and so does everyone.. including you!!!

BUT....so what???

Hes good points far ouytweigh his ship points..
And no we dont have a club full of Kernahans and Doulls and Hunters on the field so its horses for courses...

We have a shit list!!!
We have some good blokes who cant play fopotball and we have some greedy blokes
and we lack talent
and we have enigmas...

You dont throw the baby out with the bathwater..

When you improve what we have starting with the obvious candidates... then you might get around to Fev....

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How am i unstuck because of the board and Denis???

Ive been a supporter but that doies not mean i have to agree with EVERYTHING they do forever and ever to a day.....

One of the most ridiculous posts i have ever read....

What because i have supported things Denis and Collo have done.... that means i should support everything.. and if they do things we dont agree with .. im unstuck?????? :lol:

Thats just stupidity at its greatest point....

I dont even agree with EVERYTHING i have ever done in my life Rod Waddell...

Tell me something when your parents/ brother/ wife/ friends/ kids/ do something YOU DONT AGREE WITH are you UNSTUCK???????

Thats what youre just saying.....


All it shows is i have a brain to analyse things on my own.. and dont get sucked in by everything that happens.. and am prepared to give them a red hot go... and they can still prove me wrong....

What it says about you is your wooden and inflexible and you CANNOT see things for what they are....

But the answer is NO.. if YOUR FAMILY/ FRIENDS etc dop something you dont agree with youre not always unstuck!!!

Isnt it Rod Waddell??? :?

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This thread is about the assistant coaches....

Whats your opinion BM.. youve made a few posts but none about the topic....

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How did this thread turn into a who likes Synbad thread? :?

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How did this thread turn into a who likes Synbad thread? :?


Nah im taking control of it chief.. its about the assistant coaches again.. were waiting on BM to say something...

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Synbad wrote:
This thread is about the assistant coaches....

Whats your opinion BM.. youve made a few posts but none about the topic....


I gave my opinion a couple of months ago, one which you now agree with.

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chief wrote:
How did this thread turn into a who likes Synbad thread? :?


Sorry about that Chief

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I dont agree Mark.. were talking about the assistant coaches...

I already said ages ago they should go...

In fact i said ages ago they were under review and most likely changes will be made.
My point is about the board as a whole and their backflips and lack of leadership thats flowing through the club at the moment because we dont know what to do.

Whether Pagan is getting the most out of a bunch of broken down hacks and kids that have no role models is not the point....

The infrustructure is breaking down ...
Pagans the right man to do the job if he is given the right messages about what WE NEED..

If you tell Denis that the president wont be around when we win the next premiership.. the board wont be around.. the senior players wont be around and either will you Denis.... but what we want and need from you is to build PLATFORMS for the future .. were not expecting miracles.. we know it will take time.. but OUR COLLECTIVE JOB AS ACLUB TODAY is to lay down the foundations for this club to have a window of opportunity to win something in FIVE YEARS from today......that would be what Denis would be coaching towards.

At the moment.. we have NO PLAN.. so everyone is shit scared!!!.. and Denis gets signed up by the board some of who are getting nervous and knee jerky so he feels comfortable around blokes like TROUT!!!....

The board just signed Fev up and have him on the trade table.. the board told us Lance is useless and were strict with contracts and his offer jumped up another 50k....of course he wont sign it because there is no stability and leadership at the club..

Everyone is shit scared.. everyone is under the pump.... and were blaming PAGAN???

Pagan is a byproduct of an environement created by knee jerk board members....

Thats what weve been screaming against....

Start again!!!!!!

The board just signed him on a three year deal BM.. how can you make a decision on him????

The board is responsible for a game plan for the club.. then Denis can go about his business with the infrustructure and the directives provided...

We are not shit because of Denis....!!!!

Were just shit and changes NEED to me made..

Youre way too simplistic because buying paddlepops is is the biggest decision you make....

YOU NEED A GAME PLAN thats OBVIOUS by the club to the coaching staf.. players and members/ supporters/ media..

Yes i know you said Pagan cant coach... but i have news for you sunshine.. hes a two time premiership coach.....!!!!

Get a plan... put new people around him with a direction and work to it collectively!!!

Because whatever weve been doing till now.. DONT WORK!!!!

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Synbad my friend obviously what i have posted is not to your liking. I to enjoy watching Fev when he is on song just like the masses, what I can't cop is his dummy spits. Yes i understand he cannot have a blinder every game but it is a team sport and he is accountable for his actions just like the next player. Leaning on the boundary fence against Essendon* - what the heck is that? Not what I expect from the face of the club, in fact at 25 years of age he should now be showing some leadership. He was around some mighty fine leaders during his time - here's a few - SOS, McKay, Sexton, Braddles has anything rubbed off?

Not holding us to ransom? I beg to differ. You criticise our players for demanding exorbitant wages and yet you let Fev 's demands go through to the keeper. You see you and I share similar views in relation to the game and the CFC but we cannot agree on matters. :wink: Do I want Fev out? No but if the offer is good just like every other player - lets deal.

Fev plays the joker role well but he is an goal kicking ace. He knew what he wanted and he got it - $350k plus $100K equates to $450k. That's what he expects to hit his account for the next 3 years. And i what do i expect from Fev? I expect him to kick goals, i expect no more dummy spits, I expect him to be a team player, I expect him to stay back at training and practise his goalkicking, i expect him to develop his leadership qualities. That's all!


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Synners, Can I have that in 20 words or less?

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Back to Brad Scott....he offers us a new perspective on things and has come from a successful club in a successful era....I think the present players would respect him because they know him from playing against him and know he wouldnt take any rubbish from anyone..

No objections to Peter Dean either..in fact Dean and Scott are cut from similar cloth and played the game in similar fashion and might be a good combo.....either way I think both Dean and B Scott would be better value than Libba and Trout and its dissapoints me we dont show more imagination with getting some new off field blood into the club.
I wonder if the days of running mates for coaches is outdated..Harvey/Sheedy, Pagan/Elshaugh...

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yes you can..... "mark youre not a very bright guy at all and we all know it"

Hows that???

14 words..

I could have used 2 but i may have incurred a warning... :lol:

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If the board had any brains Pagan wouldnt need trout....

Its just the board are not providing an environment of stability for him.... which creates a catch 22 scenario....

They signed him for 3 years that does not mean the club cant change direction in its outlook and better development coaches cant be found in this huge continent called Australia....

But when he is under the pump he will surround himself with blokes like himself....

Its human nature....

But the club has a responsibility to provide a platform into the future and at the moment that should spell CHANGE

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Synbad wrote:
"mark youre not a very bright guy at all and we all know it"

Hows that???

14 words..


Actually that's 13 plus one contraction where you missed the apostrophe.


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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Back to Brad Scott....he offers us a new perspective on things and has come from a successful club in a successful era....I think the present players would respect him because they know him from playing against him and know he wouldnt take any rubbish from anyone..

No objections to Peter Dean either..in fact Dean and Scott are cut from similar cloth and played the game in similar fashion and might be a good combo.....either way I think both Dean and B Scott would be better value than Libba and Trout and its dissapoints me we dont show more imagination with getting some new off field blood into the club.
I wonder if the days of running mates for coaches is outdated..Harvey/Sheedy, Pagan/Elshaugh...


Elwood gotta say I love your work. No distractions and arguments from you - always get the thread back on track. Agree with you about running mates I would rather see someone who can offer a different perspective. Run the risk of being surrounded by yes men.

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GWS wrote:
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"mark youre not a very bright guy at all and we all know it"

Hows that???

14 words..


Actually that's 13 plus one contraction where you missed the apostrophe.


Oh! :-D

and yes BB.. i love Elwoods work too.. its insightful...
He does not rant and rave like me.. but he makes good points...

Actually im like this alot.... :wink:

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