At the expense of all this rhetoric it is only 7 games into the season. Perhaps a few more games before MM gets the sack?

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Its not a sprint!!!
He needs to get the fundamentals right!!!... he always said this group is a bunch of introverts... im sure he sees this as more important to deal wit h than any gameplan...

He will deal with it!!1... make no mistake!!!

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Sounds like something from the bible

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We were talking about this today down at the local waterhole.

IMO, I cant see MM getting results in 3 seasons, and if so
will MM call it quits after is contract by stating, "This rabble can't be coached"

or

Will he continue beyond 3 seasons to achieve what he set out to do??

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I believe at worst MM will leave a new culture behind that will see Carlton emerge as a challenger for many years.

Think Barassi at Sydney.

i reckon he will turn us around

if he doesnt... well he will call it quits me thinks.

he isnt a young man ... and there wll be signs he isnt going anywhere.. the board will have to achnowledge a new direction is needed.

he has 3 years...

i think youll see the fruits of it starting this year and next year more obvious

now why doesnt he rate laidler bell and duigan?

duigan too slow and gets turned inside out too easily and fumbles

laidler isnt his self.. anyone who has watched him in the reserves would know he is slower than before

bell just isnt fit enough for AFL footy .. maybe his fitness base has gone up the last month but when i saw him he was miles off running out a game in the AFL... he was strugging to run in the bullants

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You should have finished your studies then you might know when to stop waffling on and make a factual statement or at least an intelligent observation.

Just like a chicken in a hen house clucking all day and going around in circles.
No were else to go and nothing new to say.

You can’t make a leader in 2 weeks or 2 years but you can lead them.
That is the reason Malthouse was hired.

We needed a strong and knowledgeable coach to take charge so he could instil some discipline, fear and knowledge into or mentally fragile group so they would follow him. Selwood, Hodge and so on weren’t born leaders they were made leaders by having strong role models around them and growing into great leaders that the rest will follow.
Yes they need to grow but because we haven’t got much leadership on the ground it needs to start off the ground and that means Malthouse. Just like spoilt children he needs to enforce boundaries, hand out punishment and impart wisdom.

I doubt stats got you I think it was manila at La Trobe.
Dropping out didn’t help you in your objective analysis much either I see.

Anyway I’m bored with your inadequate hypothesis and limited mind set again.

..Krooz got nick-named Humphrey early on cos he was quiet, but he's been 'the tractor' for years now.. ..less so on field, but training you'd see him talking to some of the younger recruits.. ..on field, the way he blocks, the way he's willing to sacrifice his own game for team mates.. ..the way he runs hard both ways.. ..the way he'll chase an opposition runner all down the ground, and run by his smaller faster team mates shows dedication to the team cause.. ..he plays with leadership..

..Brock puts his body on the lines every time, he runs hard to spread and doesnt stay flat footed.. ..he blocks, he helps out team mates being worked over.. ....he doesnt drop his head and drop work ethic when things arent going his way.. .... ..with a career on the line he got it back on track.. ..he changed his attitude and won back the respect of his team.. ..he played his medicine of ressies games to win his way back..

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..sure, he re-injured himself early this year.. ..but first games in he was super fit, it was always going to take him a while to recover from that ACL, and playing him for the majority of last season with a torn meniscus wasn't exactly smart player management either.. ..but, up until he did his acl in his 3rd season, he missed only a few games.. ..great effort for a ruck recruit, even at pick 1.. ..a break down..

2008 - after missing the first few games of the season in recovery from op., he played the full season, earned wide respect and admiration for his game.. ..won us that port game off his boot in the last Q, away in the wet..

2009 - played the majority of the season, again won us a comeback victory with his 2nd 3 goal effort vs port away.. ..was carrying 1st ruck, and led the rucks in the final vs lions.. ..set the scene for our early domination in that final with that awesome tap and follow-up goal out of the center square.. ..can still remember the look of amazement on the face of simon black..

2010 - young kid is starting to show signs of tiring, but is still played with a heavy ruckload which he shoulders.. ..running back to help out defence, does his knee in an awkward landing from a spoil.. ..out for the year

2011 - comes back midyear, in his 1st game back shows good signs vs lions, 2nd game back single-handedly tears swans apart.. ..in the thumpings of tigers and bummers, again has very good games.. ..looking good before the mystery foot ailment, misses last couple of games of season

2012 - hands out a football lesson to Jolly, twice.. ..3 charlie votes for BoG in round 1, continues tigers pain in rematch with a 45 hitout performance to go with his all-round game style, when he was struggling with the injury which he carried for most of the season.. ..is big part of the belting we gave the bummers in that season rematch with his silver-platter serving of the ball at the stoppages to judd and murphy.. .... ..plays out the year, even though for most of it he's getting fluid drained from his knee on a regular basis..

2013 - again a very good all round game vs the tigers rnd 1, is all over Jolly early in the pies match, before cruncking him and keeping Jolly out of the side for 3 weeks [also fractured pears? leg in a bombers match the year or two previously] [krooz will legally crunch and hurt the opposition] ..running to help out the defence, he again hurts himself when landing awkwardly from a spoiling attempt..

..early in his 6th season he's almost played a 100 games, a huge effort for a young ruck that's suffered a very bad ACL.. .... ..and make no mistake about what he brings to the contest, on field..

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Impressive response BKB, cant really argue with the facts you've presented, most of which I was ignorant of. Perhaps my criticism of Kruiz is ill founded. I hope it all comes together for him in the next few weeks.

..also what's interesting to note is how ex-players just assume that krooz is our first ruck.. ..for them, it's just how it is.. ..ex-cats Ling and Mooney can't talk highly enough of Krooz.. ..MM early in his tenure puts Krooz alongside Judd as examples of players that don't have to prove themselves to him.. ..there's not many other players in that 'proven' group for MM..

..i think if we rotate Knockers and Krooz thru the ruck, and when either player isn't rucking rest them primarily on the bench, and have them ruck and work all over the ground at full pace before rotating for a breather, and play only fwds up fwd [no hammer].. ..i don't think we'd suffer as a result of using bench space for the rucks.. ..just play 1 tall up fwd if either a lumberer of the rowe/bolt variety.. ..only 2 kpf set-up i'd consider would be waite and hendo.. ..both are natrurally roaming CHFs, and we won't lose run, or have a stagnant fwd-line if we play them both.. ..otherwise waite, and a medium hit-up leading target to go with smalls.. ..MM will rotate enough runners thru the middle..

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youre funny

culture cant be wiped out in a single blow.... cos the people inside the bad culture dont understand that theyre in a bad culture they think its correct.

the culture change must come from within ....the players need to understand what a good culture is themselves
to have malthouse wack it out of them.. means they will get narky towards mathouse and he will be the bad witch.

its something you dont understand is it???

they can be guided... but ultimately it will be up to them.. to tell judd to run both ways.. and lucas to stick his tackles.. and waite to not be a @#$%&! head.. and nothing short is acceptable!!!

LEADERSHIP on the ground...!!!


their peers....!!!

oh i didnt go to latrobe...


try to learn what leadership is.. in a footy sense.. they all must be leaders on the ground...!!!

Good teams dont have ONE leader... !!!.. they have mutiples!!!.. thats what you dont get!!!!... and multiples decide what the cuture will be.

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Our last 6 losses have been by less than 18 points. Or to put it another way, we've lost our last 6 close games.

I reckon he needs to go back to the twos for a month.

Yes, he's out of touch at the moment, but more importantly, think there's better chance teaching Kreuzer to play a different role (whether it be as an old school resting ruck in the back pocket type, or potentially a CHB) in the twos, than there is developing Hampson as a key forward in the twos or Warnock adding an extra string to his bow.

Let Kreuz play a few weeks at a lower level taking advantage of the lower skill levels on display, mopping up across half back, rather than drop Hampson back and rely on similar level of kicking, and potentially hinder Rowe/Casboult/Mitchell at the same time.

Whilst Warnock is both a) not injured and b) at least breaking even, I reckon it makes sense. Not like any of the above 3 offer more than Hampson at this stage either.

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Yes it is.
Leading Teams are suited to the strong clubs with a willingness to chase success without compromise. (Sydney, Geelong)
Too many insecure people in our coaching group for that to be implemented.
God forbid the powerbase would be diluted somewhat.

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..except that Hampson isn't doing too well either.. ..he's played 6 games mostly in the fwd line, for 3 goals return.. ..Krooz plays mostly ruck for 4 games, has kicked 2.. ..Rowe has played 4 games, and has kicked 4 goals.. .... ..Hampson isn't all that much better than Rowe in the KPF/ruck relief role.. .... ..and Krooz was rushed back early from an injury, thats different to being out of touch..

..i don't think Krooz would work as a CHB, and if you're thinking he can ruck, and be taught to drift back to be loose in the backline.. ..why try to attempt to change him, when his around the ground work is so good.. ..if he's playing ruck, let him ruck and rove, vs ruck and float loose.. ..much better to have him contribute around the contest, and because of this have his opposite ruck have to go with him around the ground.. ..vs letting both rucks sag off the contest and play loose behind the ball..

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I think we've fallen again for the messiah complex - bring someone in on big bucks and she'll be right.

We peaked a few years ago and whatever window we had is gone. I'm not sure of the merits of bringing in a 60 year old to reset a list or to reset a playing expectation, which is a long term game.

Our playing list balance tells me that we'll be mediocre for a while yet - good enough to win a number of games but not good enough to really challenge. Will our mids collectively work hard enough to compete with the very good teams? No, I don't think so.

If 'Mick has a lot of him' I think our best hope is that his influence can lead us to effective club / list management structures and we can catch up on some of the best thinking from recent years. Unfortunately we didn't do that (couldn't afford to?) as we emerged from the dark years but I cant help but feel that the surge from that opportunity is now wasted.