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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 9:51 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:15 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:41 am 
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Before this game the Saints had beaten one side, GWS. On Friday Freeo, with an ordinary list, their best two exp players and best 2 younger players out, and their only ruck out after 15 mins, showed grit and resilience, we put up excuses.

Don't see all the wraps for Warnock. Look at how Mcevoy works around the ground, he can actually take a contested mark. Has Warnock ever taken an overhead mark? With Jacobs on our list we recruited Warnock as fourth first ruck and drafted Big K, while trading away Kennedy so we have no key forwards. Big K shouldn't have played, clearly not fit. And Hammo is a ruck and only a ruck. If he rucked and Warnock played full forward I suspect we would do as well in the ruck and worse (if possible) up forward. Our 3 rucks barely had as many possessions, marks, contested marks as their one ruck. Knockouts are overated. We need a fit Big K as first ruck. We need to give Levi a long run in the 1s as he is about the only guy who can take a genuine contested mark. We don't have any key forwards (I exclude Waite's occassional cameos) and so we need to use Levi and / or Rowe and consider playing only one ruckman. I thought Ratts was the only guy who thought three rucks cd work, but MM fell for it as well. Have these guys ever watched our three rucks? None of them are forwards. At years end trade Warnock and maybe Hampson and start rebuiildng. Juddy is still our best player and he is not the player he was.

Why play Yarran? Why play Big K? Neither ready to go.

It's interesting, our committee refused to consider any coach who hadn't won a flag, which meant MM waltzed into the job. Anyone think he is a better coach than Ross Lyon -yes I know we wd have been a yr to late but its embarrassing to think that Freeo are much smarter than us with their appointments. If we'd been better at drafting, trading and coaching appointments when Pagan left, we'd be contenders, but instead we have the grim prospect of another rebuild.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:29 am 
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gerry atric wrote:
Before this game the Saints had beaten one side, GWS. On Friday Freeo, with an ordinary list, their best two exp players and best 2 younger players out, and their only ruck out after 15 mins, showed grit and resilience, we put up excuses.

Don't see all the wraps for Warnock. Look at how Mcevoy works around the ground, he can actually take a contested mark. Has Warnock ever taken an overhead mark? With Jacobs on our list we recruited Warnock as fourth first ruck and drafted Big K, while trading away Kennedy so we have no key forwards. Big K shouldn't have played, clearly not fit. And Hammo is a ruck and only a ruck. If he rucked and Warnock played full forward I suspect we would do as well in the ruck and worse (if possible) up forward. Our 3 rucks barely had as many possessions, marks, contested marks as their one ruck. Knockouts are overated. We need a fit Big K as first ruck. We need to give Levi a long run in the 1s as he is about the only guy who can take a genuine contested mark. We don't have any key forwards (I exclude Waite's occassional cameos) and so we need to use Levi and / or Rowe and consider playing only one ruckman. I thought Ratts was the only guy who thought three rucks cd work, but MM fell for it as well. Have these guys ever watched our three rucks? None of them are forwards. At years end trade Warnock and maybe Hampson and start rebuiildng. Juddy is still our best player and he is not the player he was.


Very disappointing loss on Monday night, the Saints have definitely had it over us for the past 10 years. Also, they lost to the Gold Coast this season (I know, so did we last season). Agree with you gerry atric about the 3 rucks, we can't play 3 of them. I think 2 is acceptable, but 3 is too unbalanced as none of them can play forward.

Our bombing into the forward line was atrocious, which played right into St Kilda's hands. How many times did we see a Carlton player just bomb it in? So many times where McEvoy and Fisher just had easy uncontested marks in our forward 50. I actually think that Malthouse got out-coached on Monday, as they had an unaccountable defender roaming our forward 50, why couldn't he be made accountable?

This week to have Waite come in, Dylan Buckley to replace one of the 2 amigos, Laidler to come back in if Jamo doesn't get up. Maybe even bring in Casboult.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:34 am 
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tommi wrote:
Don't pooh pooh maaan.........!


kindest regards tommi


forgot to say..grilled.
That's the only acceptable use for them Tommi.
Otherwise...rubbish. Processed rubbish.
Grill them..and ...oh my...heaven.

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:54 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:

It's interesting, our committee refused to consider any coach who hadn't won a flag, which meant MM waltzed into the job. Anyone think he is a better coach than Ross Lyon -yes I know we wd have been a yr to late but its embarrassing to think that Freeo are much smarter than us with their appointments. If we'd been better at drafting, trading and coaching appointments when Pagan left, we'd be contenders, but instead we have the grim prospect of another rebuild.


I think we'll see a massive turn over in our list come trade week, not to mention a few off field changes as well.

Barker has gotta go, seriously, our forward line is plain inept and has been for quite some time.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:09 pm 
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Stone Free wrote:
gerry atric wrote:

It's interesting, our committee refused to consider any coach who hadn't won a flag, which meant MM waltzed into the job. Anyone think he is a better coach than Ross Lyon -yes I know we wd have been a yr to late but its embarrassing to think that Freeo are much smarter than us with their appointments. If we'd been better at drafting, trading and coaching appointments when Pagan left, we'd be contenders, but instead we have the grim prospect of another rebuild.


I think we'll see a massive turn over in our list come trade week, not to mention a few off field changes as well.

Barker has gotta go, seriously, our forward line is plain inept and has been for quite some time.


Not likely. Malthouse was on radio earlier this week pumping his tyres up....

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:09 pm 
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In hindsight the game against the demons the week before was not ideal prep for the saints. We were pretty average against the demons in a game with zero pressure. Even Lucas was getting kicks and hitting the odd target.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:55 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Stone Free wrote:
gerry atric wrote:

It's interesting, our committee refused to consider any coach who hadn't won a flag, which meant MM waltzed into the job. Anyone think he is a better coach than Ross Lyon -yes I know we wd have been a yr to late but its embarrassing to think that Freeo are much smarter than us with their appointments. If we'd been better at drafting, trading and coaching appointments when Pagan left, we'd be contenders, but instead we have the grim prospect of another rebuild.


I think we'll see a massive turn over in our list come trade week, not to mention a few off field changes as well.

Barker has gotta go, seriously, our forward line is plain inept and has been for quite some time.


Not likely. Malthouse was on radio earlier this week pumping his tyres up....
I'm not going to be happy if we keep Barker on because Mick likes working with him. Fair enough he doesn't have much to work with and the delivery from midfield is often rubbish but I haven't seen anything onfield to indicate why he should be retained. Time for someone else to have a go IMO.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:59 pm 
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in8 wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Stone Free wrote:
gerry atric wrote:

It's interesting, our committee refused to consider any coach who hadn't won a flag, which meant MM waltzed into the job. Anyone think he is a better coach than Ross Lyon -yes I know we wd have been a yr to late but its embarrassing to think that Freeo are much smarter than us with their appointments. If we'd been better at drafting, trading and coaching appointments when Pagan left, we'd be contenders, but instead we have the grim prospect of another rebuild.


I think we'll see a massive turn over in our list come trade week, not to mention a few off field changes as well.

Barker has gotta go, seriously, our forward line is plain inept and has been for quite some time.


Not likely. Malthouse was on radio earlier this week pumping his tyres up....
I'm not going to be happy if we keep Barker on because Mick likes working with him. Fair enough he doesn't have much to work with and the delivery from midfield is often rubbish but I haven't seen anything onfield to indicate why he should be retained. Time for someone else to have a go IMO.


We just need to wait until MM bags him in a radio interview and then we will know it is happening.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:57 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Stone Free wrote:
gerry atric wrote:

It's interesting, our committee refused to consider any coach who hadn't won a flag, which meant MM waltzed into the job. Anyone think he is a better coach than Ross Lyon -yes I know we wd have been a yr to late but its embarrassing to think that Freeo are much smarter than us with their appointments. If we'd been better at drafting, trading and coaching appointments when Pagan left, we'd be contenders, but instead we have the grim prospect of another rebuild.


I think we'll see a massive turn over in our list come trade week, not to mention a few off field changes as well.

Barker has gotta go, seriously, our forward line is plain inept and has been for quite some time.


Not likely. Malthouse was on radio earlier this week pumping his tyres up....


Yet he was asking Cameron Ling if he was available on air about 6 weeks ago.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:22 pm 
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Malthouse isnt bagging anyone he works with in public... its not his style...

Doesnt mean end of year he wont be taking the axe to many of them...and he will

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:34 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Malthouse isnt bagging anyone he works with in public... its not his style...

Doesnt mean end of year he wont be taking the axe to many of them...and he will


I'm so looking forward to that axe, counting down the days, that's my seasons highlight.. bring it on.. don't care where we finish on the ladder, provided the incompetence is cut out at seasons end


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:02 pm 
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we have to change our game plan.Time after time we kick the ball long to our fwd line only to see the turnover and away they go. Watch how ess geelong haw play use the ball always short passing to leading player and so.They say you judge team when they havent got the ball in this case we r terrible. How many times we c opp players by themselves or my fav betts ff on a tller opp and we still bomb long to him. change the process mick.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:05 pm 
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pew1 wrote:
we have to change our game plan.Time after time we kick the ball long to our fwd line only to see the turnover and away they go. Watch how ess geelong haw play use the ball always short passing to leading player and so.They say you judge team when they havent got the ball in this case we r terrible. How many times we c opp players by themselves or my fav betts ff on a tller opp and we still bomb long to him. change the process mick.

Judd needs to pull the digit out too...
If he is some kind of spiritual leader around the place he needs to do exactly what is expected of everybody else when we dont have the ball...

the sacred herd of cows should not exist....everybody without exception needs to do their bit.

So far very few do it.
Walker McLean Armfield Garlett has reinvented himself.. Curnow... probably a few others.. but it falls down like the phalanx does if one or two dont do their bit

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:05 pm 
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pew1 wrote:
we have to change our game plan.Time after time we kick the ball long to our fwd line only to see the turnover and away they go. Watch how ess geelong haw play use the ball always short passing to leading player and so.They say you judge team when they havent got the ball in this case we r terrible. How many times we c opp players by themselves or my fav betts ff on a tller opp and we still bomb long to him. change the process mick.


Game plan is not Malthouses responsibility. His only concerned with the process.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:09 pm 
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Wonder if we'll see Mark Neeld at Carlton as an assistant coach in 2014

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:44 pm 
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I'm not going to be happy if we keep Barker on because Mick likes working with him. Fair enough he doesn't have much to work with and the delivery from midfield is often rubbish but I haven't seen anything onfield to indicate why he should be retained. Time for someone else to have a go IMO.


Should have been shown the door years ago. Average at best.


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:53 pm 
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This kid shows more ticker than some of the blokes on the ground.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 6641522961

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ZACH Melbourne is not a typical eight-year-old. Like many children his age, he loves his footy and even wants to play in the midfield for Carlton one day.
But the similarities end there, because Zach has CVID (common variable immunodeficiency), which strikes one in 50,000 people



Poor old Dees, not even a kid called Zach Melbourne will barrack for them!

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