Spot on

Problem is our captain lacks hardness

And Kreuzer is a problem. Hendo and Waite should be our two forwards. Warnock our ruck. Where does that leave Kreuzer??

Too many spuds - Robbo, White

Lucas soft as butter

Jamison a crock

Brock and Scotland slow

Simmo cooked and Judd fading

Betts AWOL under true heat

Yazz injury prone

The list goes on

Lucas needs to play NRL for a few months & learn how to stick a tackle,shit Garlett is a smaller frame than Lucas but can still lay a better tackle......

by miles

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Just when you think we might have turned the corner, they dish that up.

Seems we still are mentally soft and physically weak. Out worked and out coached tonight.

The old gameplan against Carlton still works a treat.

That's an indictment on all involved, players and coaches.

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Oh Mick, please don't go with the stats

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#GUILTY

Cons:

We keep finding ways of losing games against this average side.
Not sure why the MC thought the 3 ruckman experiment was worth trying again.
Multiple injuries early in the game.
Poor kicking for goal. Especially early. The bad misses by Hammer and McLean were really costly. Could have kept us much closer on the scoreboard, although we weren't playing well.
Again found out by a flooding/counterattacking team at Etihad. Not sure why we didn't keep 3 spares in our defence. At least then, we could have prevented the opposition getting out to a matchwinning lead.
Hammer. Lucas.
Judd's willingness to tackle and chase.
The skill level, fumbling and falling over was horrible.
Betts' likely suspension. Although again didn't look like he made contact to the head. (Then again I thought the same last week with Waite.)
Pretty frustrating that we've got 3 ruckman. And they struggle to take a mark between them. McEvoy alone took more contested marks than our trio.

Pros:

Jamo's effort playing with one shoulder.
Coaching panel kept trying things. Really liked the move of Kreuzer into defence, and Hendo forward. Pity Jamo's probably going to miss games, because I guess that means Hendo will have to go back again.
Effort and fight back in the 2nd half.
Garlett. Could be leading the B&F.
Warnock.
McLean.
Armfield.
Tuohy and Walker.
Cachia showed a little late in the game.
Hendo's last quarter.

Some guy on SEN SMS

"Carlton are St Kilda's Cullinan"

Kreuzer is a better ruckman

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F&@@& yes, and soon while his has perceived value.

Kruz for his own sake may need to go to a club where he will always be the number 1 ruckman. I like him but I love my club more, if we can get a Dom Tyson and an early draft pick from GWS I'd take it.

for all the shit effort and stupid decision making from the players tonight

my biggest X goes to Malthouse

that was a terrible selected and coached game.

If it was ok to tear ratten to shreds, mick needs to be looked at for that one.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

OUTS: Couldn't give a stuff.
INS: Couldn't give a stuff.

Shit I'm pissed off.

Sam Edmund ‏@SammyHeraldSun
Malthouse just lashed suspended Jarrad Waite in the Blues rooms. Couldn't pick it all up but the word %^*# was audible. Ouch. #iamcarlton

But Warnock is better so no spot

throw in joseph or watson? if only we'd kept russell..

Lucas' game made me so angry. 14 bullsh$t disposals. Another 14 missed or limp tackles it seemed. No hunger for the contest. Nothing upstairs. Horrible 1st round pick.

And throw in Lucas, gratis, just to release a spot on the list

not letting the players off the hook either - they all need to be lined up and be poked in the eyes

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Poor mick

10 players before him

Better idea not to recruit Judd in the first place. Learn to stand on our own two feet.

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