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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:02 pm 
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Ellard did a great job on Nathan Jones, as did White on Howe.

Tough week at selection coming up, especially with Hampson putting in a decent effort after HT.


Tough selection week means we had 22 contributors. Good problem to have at round 6.

This time last year our season was over


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:04 pm 
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10 goals win without Kruze gibbs and Carrots. And Judd not influential.
Well spread team effort.
Lucas getting better and better and I think Curnow will also continue to improve. White good game. Who would have thought it would be hard for Laidler to get in?

Be nice if Waite led more centrally but maybe that's not possible. I don't have much confidence when we take marks inside 50 unless it is Betts anywhere within 30. Tend to be more confident with snaps...

Carlton least 'frees for' in competition. We have average 10 fee kicks less per game than roos.
Don't know what that means but gives me some perverse self righteousness (or something)


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:06 pm 
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Henderson absolutely superb today I thought. marked everything and barely missed a target.

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:11 pm 
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NTBlue wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
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Clearances still need a bit of work. To only just edge the worst clearance team in the comp despite Warnocks dominance was a bit disappointing.


perhaps related to Judds obvious decline in dominance. Not the same stoppage king he used to be. haven't seen his stats for this game, but suspect his dominance in congestion in 2013 isn't what it used to be.

I haven't seen the stats, but remember hearing the commentators saying in the last quarter that Judd had quite low possessions for him but still had more clearances than any one else on the ground.


ahh ok, interesting as i got the opposite impression, but stats don't lie so i guess that's not the issue..


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:14 pm 
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Henderson absolutely superb today I thought. marked everything and barely missed a target.


Has really come along well, nearly always seems well composed and deliberate in his decision making and execution.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:14 pm 
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Never got out of 2nd gear. Belted them early and then cruised for 2 quarters then put the foot down in the last qtr.

Waite up forward sure made a difference, even though he was a bit rusty with his kicking
The Brothers killed it again!
Hope Yazz is ok with his hammy. Need his pace against the Aints next week.

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:14 pm 
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Good:
10 goal win
Backs worked well
Good spread of goal kickers
Waite got through
Cacchia did well on debut

Not so good:
10 goal win
Waite's brain
Midfield at times especially when Judd's not there
Big forwards need to do more

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:16 pm 
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Simmo took a big hit, also a hit on Gawn which will do his confidence some good. Played his role well today.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:16 pm 
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Awkward call of the day to Bruuuuuuuuuuce after Curnow slotted one in the last quarter.

"He could almost be an amigo, the way he plays his footy too don't you think?"

Translation: He's sort of black too, eh?

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:26 pm 
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DenimUndies wrote:
NTBlue wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
in8 wrote:
Clearances still need a bit of work. To only just edge the worst clearance team in the comp despite Warnocks dominance was a bit disappointing.


perhaps related to Judds obvious decline in dominance. Not the same stoppage king he used to be. haven't seen his stats for this game, but suspect his dominance in congestion in 2013 isn't what it used to be.

I haven't seen the stats, but remember hearing the commentators saying in the last quarter that Judd had quite low possessions for him but still had more clearances than any one else on the ground.


ahh ok, interesting as i got the opposite impression, but stats don't lie so i guess that's not the issue..

DU, I have a suspicion that MM is limiting the time that CJ spends on the ball in order to develop the other mids and take the pressure of Juddy. Remember him saying earlier in the year that he thought that other players needed to step up to lessen the reliance on C Judd. Nice to have the luxury of the champ being a fringe player.... and fresh for the second half of the year.

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:26 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
Awkward call of the day to Bruuuuuuuuuuce after Curnow slotted one in the last quarter.

"He could almost be an amigo, the way he plays his footy too don't you think?"

Translation: He's sort of black too, eh?




I was about to post that at the time but thought I might be making it up... :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:29 pm 
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NTBlue wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
NTBlue wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
in8 wrote:
Clearances still need a bit of work. To only just edge the worst clearance team in the comp despite Warnocks dominance was a bit disappointing.


perhaps related to Judds obvious decline in dominance. Not the same stoppage king he used to be. haven't seen his stats for this game, but suspect his dominance in congestion in 2013 isn't what it used to be.

I haven't seen the stats, but remember hearing the commentators saying in the last quarter that Judd had quite low possessions for him but still had more clearances than any one else on the ground.


ahh ok, interesting as i got the opposite impression, but stats don't lie so i guess that's not the issue..

DU, I have a suspician that MM is limiting the time that CJ spends on the ball in order to develop the other mids and take the pressure of Juddy. Remember him saying earlier in the year that he thought that other players needed to step up to lessen the reliance on C Judd. Nice to have the luxury of the champ being a fringe player.... and fres for the second half of the year.


I've wondered about that too. If true it's a good thing and another reason it's good to have a coach who can see the bigger picture without having to worry about whomever's standing behind him with a knife week to week.

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:29 pm 
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Thought he was referring to his pace....
And he is.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:42 pm 
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Thought he was referring to his pace....
And he is.



that's what I thought too.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:44 pm 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
Never got out of 2nd gear. Belted them early and then cruised for 2 quarters then put the foot down in the last qtr.

Waite up forward sure made a difference, even though he was a bit rusty with his kicking
The Brothers killed it again!
Hope Yazz is ok with his hammy. Need his pace against the Aints next week.


Speaking of the 3 brilliant bro's, its clear that the forward line is able to function effectively with just 2 of them in it. I wouldn't mind yazz alternating between midfield (wing) and forward, ie taking Lucas's place. we would certainly benefit from his superior skills in hitting targets coming through the middle. Play Lucas off the bench in an aerobic relief role.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:57 pm 
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I've wondered about that too. If true it's a good thing and another reason it's good to have a coach who can see the bigger picture without having to worry about whomever's standing behind him with a knife week to week.


Too right..one can talk about courage under fire all they like, but I suspect its ingrained in human nature to revert to self preservation mode when you sense daggers pointed in your direction ready to be released. Its got to effect your decision making short term.. oh well that's the past, but good that decisions can now be made with a medium/longer term view in mind.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:58 pm 
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in8 wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
in8 wrote:
Clearances still need a bit of work. To only just edge the worst clearance team in the comp despite Warnocks dominance was a bit disappointing.


perhaps related to Judds obvious decline in dominance. Not the same stoppage king he used to be. haven't seen his stats for this game, but suspect his dominance in congestion in 2013 isn't what it used to be.
Don't think so. Judds down a bit over a clearance a game from last year but that's only part of it. Last year we had 3 blokes in the top 20 for clearances per game and 5 in the top 50. So far this year Judd's the only one in the top 50.


Also, when a ruckman is that dominate as Warnock was the opposition give up and rove to our ruckman. Dominate ruckman are good, real dominate ruckman actually aren't. Sandliands and Freo's lack of clearances are a good example.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:05 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
Good:
10 goal win
Backs worked well
Good spread of goal kickers
Waite got through
Cacchia did well on debut

Not so good:
10 goal win
Waite's brain
Midfield at times especially when Judd's not there
Big forwards need to do more


Problem with the big forwards is Hampson did all his good work on the ball, where he plays best. He is simply no good as a key forward. Leaving him there will shatter his confidence completely. Played really well running around the ground. His problem comes when Kreuzer returns as Warnock will keep his place.

Time to bring back Casboult. Playing good footy for the NBs. Play he and Waite in the key positions and let the rucks just concentrate on rucking. They'll still be handy for the odd mark and goal still resting forward.


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:10 pm 
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jim wrote:
in8 wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
in8 wrote:
Clearances still need a bit of work. To only just edge the worst clearance team in the comp despite Warnocks dominance was a bit disappointing.


perhaps related to Judds obvious decline in dominance. Not the same stoppage king he used to be. haven't seen his stats for this game, but suspect his dominance in congestion in 2013 isn't what it used to be.
Don't think so. Judds down a bit over a clearance a game from last year but that's only part of it. Last year we had 3 blokes in the top 20 for clearances per game and 5 in the top 50. So far this year Judd's the only one in the top 50.


Also, when a ruckman is that dominate as Warnock was the opposition give up and rove to our ruckman. Dominate ruckman are good, real dominate ruckman actually aren't. Sandliands and Freo's lack of clearances are a good example.


Who were the other 3 that are down now?


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:29 pm 
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DenimUndies wrote:
jim wrote:
in8 wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
in8 wrote:
Clearances still need a bit of work. To only just edge the worst clearance team in the comp despite Warnocks dominance was a bit disappointing.


perhaps related to Judds obvious decline in dominance. Not the same stoppage king he used to be. haven't seen his stats for this game, but suspect his dominance in congestion in 2013 isn't what it used to be.
Don't think so. Judds down a bit over a clearance a game from last year but that's only part of it. Last year we had 3 blokes in the top 20 for clearances per game and 5 in the top 50. So far this year Judd's the only one in the top 50.


Also, when a ruckman is that dominate as Warnock was the opposition give up and rove to our ruckman. Dominate ruckman are good, real dominate ruckman actually aren't. Sandliands and Freo's lack of clearances are a good example.


Who were the other 3 that are down now?
Are you talking about my post or the post before?


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