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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:37 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
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he was talking ceo cimm

and besides whats the best thing about mckays 2 years stint as footy operations manager?
his contracts to jacobs white joseph and waite?
his handling of coaches inclusing last years VFL coach ?
the fact were on 97%PLUS of the salary cap?
the fact we couldnt trade for anyone last trade period?
the balanced llist he has helped manage??

its a terrible set up we have....


This is all down to him (McKay), are you sure?

Football operations manager?
You bet your last dollar...

if its not .. hes in charge of oranges ..

Thats what a football op manager does ....

The CEO just makes sure we can pay the money and fit them in the salary cap
Footy op manager creates the football environmment (with the coach)


Christ almighty. Lucky for us, you're not in charge making the big decisions at the club.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:38 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
trublu wrote:
Part of the reason Mick got Rob Whiley on board is because Mick is overseeing many areas of the club. Fitness, sports science and most important recruitment and development..... Expect changes in all areas.

It is pretty much a rebuild in a one year. I hear Mick has demanded he has someone he trusts be involved in recruitment as a national role.

There is plenty going on behind the scenes for 2014 and onwards.


Please not Andrew Lockyer anyone but Lockyer.


Someone from the west.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:41 pm 
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trublu wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
trublu wrote:
Part of the reason Mick got Rob Whiley on board is because Mick is overseeing many areas of the club. Fitness, sports science and most important recruitment and development..... Expect changes in all areas.

It is pretty much a rebuild in a one year. I hear Mick has demanded he has someone he trusts be involved in recruitment as a national role.

There is plenty going on behind the scenes for 2014 and onwards.


Please not Andrew Lockyer anyone but Lockyer.


Someone from the west.


That could be Andrew then.

He was (is?) the under WA under 18's coach, and currently works for the Pies (how did the WAFC allow that?) so , on paper, he has the credentials.

But, I'm not convinced.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:42 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
he was talking ceo cimm

and besides whats the best thing about mckays 2 years stint as footy operations manager?
his contracts to jacobs white joseph and waite?
his handling of coaches inclusing last years VFL coach ?
the fact were on 97%PLUS of the salary cap?
the fact we couldnt trade for anyone last trade period?
the balanced llist he has helped manage??

its a terrible set up we have....


This is all down to him (McKay), are you sure?

Football operations manager?
You bet your last dollar...

if its not .. hes in charge of oranges ..

Thats what a football op manager does ....

The CEO just makes sure we can pay the money and fit them in the salary cap
Footy op manager creates the football environmment (with the coach)


So McKay is responsible for losing Sam Jacobs, a year before McKay started.?

no he is in charge of having hammer unable and clueless to ruck.. by not recommending capuano.. is sacked and replaced.
maybe he makes recommendations and the club cant afford them.. cos he makes recommendations to keep ratten that cost us a million dollars a year later ....
cos he ratts stayed cos theyre all compromised by playing with him.. not because he understood how to mould a premiership side..


where do u start with these guys???.. its a mess!!!
i never mentioned jacobs!!!... if i did. i meant joseph i get my bible personalities wrong sometimes....

But he is in charge of alot of stuff he cant be proud of ...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:42 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
tryblu if sticks answer is to try to poach all of collingwood ... u change your name to trumagpie

and remember copy cat wannabees are NOT innovators

I want to see a REAL plan from this bozo who is clingging onto this club and dragging it down...

im gunna get angry!!!!


Believe it or not buddy, sticks is well respected. People return his calls. He, swan and mick are making calls and its not just the Lexus centre they are ringing.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:47 pm 
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trublu wrote:
Synbad wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
he was talking ceo cimm

and besides whats the best thing about mckays 2 years stint as footy operations manager?
his contracts to jacobs white joseph and waite?
his handling of coaches inclusing last years VFL coach ?
the fact were on 97%PLUS of the salary cap?
the fact we couldnt trade for anyone last trade period?
the balanced llist he has helped manage??

its a terrible set up we have....


This is all down to him (McKay), are you sure?

Football operations manager?
You bet your last dollar...

if its not .. hes in charge of oranges ..

Thats what a football op manager does ....

The CEO just makes sure we can pay the money and fit them in the salary cap
Footy op manager creates the football environmment (with the coach)


Christ almighty. Lucky for us, you're not in charge making the big decisions at the club.



Why? do you think ill turn the club into a side that looks miles off winning flags???

:lol:

Do you think id load up on average half back flankers or something .. and then sign them all up on multiple season contracts on the first season free agency is in play???

maybe id sign J Waite on a long contract...??

Or oversee an ageing midfield group.
Judd
Scotland
Simmo
Carrazzo
McLean

all in their or close to their sunset years...


or be part of a process that hires and sacks ratts inside of 10 months??

Which bit would i @#$%&! up... if i headed this powerhouse club??

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:47 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
he was talking ceo cimm

and besides whats the best thing about mckays 2 years stint as footy operations manager?
his contracts to jacobs white joseph and waite?
his handling of coaches inclusing last years VFL coach ?
the fact were on 97%PLUS of the salary cap?
the fact we couldnt trade for anyone last trade period?
the balanced llist he has helped manage??

its a terrible set up we have....


This is all down to him (McKay), are you sure?

Football operations manager?
You bet your last dollar...

if its not .. hes in charge of oranges ..

Thats what a football op manager does ....

The CEO just makes sure we can pay the money and fit them in the salary cap
Footy op manager creates the football environmment (with the coach)


So McKay is responsible for losing Sam Jacobs, a year before McKay started.?

no he is in charge of having hammer unable and clueless to ruck.. by not recommending capuano.. is sacked and replaced.
maybe he makes recommendations and the club cant afford them.. cos he makes recommendations to keep ratten that cost us a million dollars a year later ....
cos he ratts stayed cos theyre all compromised by playing with him.. not because he understood how to mould a premiership side..


where do u start with these guys???.. its a mess!!!
i never mentioned jacobs!!!... if i did. i meant joseph i get my bible personalities wrong sometimes....

But he is in charge of alot of stuff he cant be proud of ...


Yeah, in fact, you mentioned Jacobs first a well as Joseph.

You probably neglected to take a look of his start date. If you take into account a few things he's probably been in the job a year, before that it was Icke so 90% of our list is a Hughes/Ratten/Icke list not a Rodgers/MM/McKay list, all of who have just taken over.

Blind hatred i not a good basis for an argument Synners, you just end up arguing against your own stated position.

As you have here.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:48 pm 
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I didnt mention the part time headmaster in charge of the Bullants... and the fighting at Cramer street during quarter breaks between him and Ratten....He didnt oversee that appointment??

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:51 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
I didnt mention the part time headmaster in charge of the Bullants... and the fighting at Cramer street during quarter breaks between him and Ratten....He didnt oversee that appointment??


Don't know?

Maybe check with the club. Get some facts, see who floated the idea, who seconded it and who implemented it.

You can do that with all your contacts, yes?

Try not making it up this time though.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:52 pm 
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cimm... i have enough nails to nail any coffin shut on all of our footy operations affairs if youre looking to be a good team
swap jacobs with white.... or duigan...

its just semantics!!!

List managent poor and i obviously didnt mean jacobs.. cos im talking about contracts to duds ... thats not what happened to jacobs
Sticks said we didnt need 4 ruckmen.. before the season even ended in the last year of JAcobs Carlton football life....

enough said....

Lets face it... were very amateurish...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:53 pm 
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Synbad, do you have to be reminded where we've come from?

We were down and out.
No money
Massive debt
Fractured board
Salary breaches
Banned from the draft for two years
Culture problems

And lead by sticks we've managed to the that around.

We've managed to rebuild the club, back up on our feet and play finals when other clubs like Essendon* and Richmond have had a sweat ride and haven't had to deal with such problems as we have.

I'm not settling for this and I demand more but for flower sakes buddy, we've managed to turn around a rudderless ship in the right direction.

I'd hate to be a melbourne supporter right now.

Its taken the tigers how long to finally have a chance of playing final?.

We've played in 3 finals series after being an absolute basket case and the ,laughing stock of the league.

I think we should applaud the efforts of those who have helped turn it around and maybe now we finally have a coach in charge that has an idea of what it takes and what he needs to win a premiership
And he will make the changes required to get us back up to where collingwood and the leading clubs are at


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:54 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
I didnt mention the part time headmaster in charge of the Bullants... and the fighting at Cramer street during quarter breaks between him and Ratten....He didnt oversee that appointment??


Don't know?

Maybe check with the club. Get some facts, see who floated the idea, who seconded it and who implemented it.

You can do that with all your contacts, yes?

Try not making it up this time though.

i dont care who thought of it who seconded and who i mplemented.. thats McKays area in charge!!!

Kapish????

Football operations manager means exactly that... if he is on title and not allowed to implemented his philosophies and ideas.. he should do the BALLSY thing and quit!!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:57 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
trublu wrote:
Synbad wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
he was talking ceo cimm

and besides whats the best thing about mckays 2 years stint as footy operations manager?
his contracts to jacobs white joseph and waite?
his handling of coaches inclusing last years VFL coach ?
the fact were on 97%PLUS of the salary cap?
the fact we couldnt trade for anyone last trade period?
the balanced llist he has helped manage??

its a terrible set up we have....


This is all down to him (McKay), are you sure?

Football operations manager?
You bet your last dollar...

if its not .. hes in charge of oranges ..

Thats what a football op manager does ....

The CEO just makes sure we can pay the money and fit them in the salary cap
Footy op manager creates the football environmment (with the coach)


Christ almighty. Lucky for us, you're not in charge making the big decisions at the club.



Why? do you think ill turn the club into a side that looks miles off winning flags???

:lol:

Do you think id load up on average half back flankers or something .. and then sign them all up on multiple season contracts on the first season free agency is in play???

maybe id sign J Waite on a long contract...??

Or oversee an ageing midfield group.
Judd
Scotland
Simmo
Carrazzo
McLean

all in their or close to their sunset years...


or be part of a process that hires and sacks ratts inside of 10 months??

Which bit would i !@#$%& up... if i headed this powerhouse club??


You think Mick Malthouse is that under qualified to know if he has or hasn't got a list and a team to have a crack.... He knows our list isn't good enough and will make the necessary changes.

He will make changes to the football department which he's already put forward a dream team together and has asked his GM And CEO to ate it happen

Sticks is making calls. Swanny's making calls so to McKay and mick himself.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:57 pm 
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Eddie wrote:
I love TC after a few losses.


You mean we sometimes win? lol

Dem were the days!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:59 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
I didnt mention the part time headmaster in charge of the Bullants... and the fighting at Cramer street during quarter breaks between him and Ratten....He didnt oversee that appointment??


Don't know?

Maybe check with the club. Get some facts, see who floated the idea, who seconded it and who implemented it.

You can do that with all your contacts, yes?

Try not making it up this time though.

i dont care who thought of it who seconded and who i mplemented.. thats McKays area in charge!!!

Kapish????

Football operations manager means exactly that... if he is on title and not allowed to implemented his philosophies and ideas.. he should do the BALLSY thing and quit!!!!


You have no idea how it works. It's different at all clubs. Some are fortunate to have people involved in their club that are influential and can make things happen.

Sticks is one of those for us. Like I said, people return his calls.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:00 pm 
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PEOPLE DONT LISTN TO SYNBAD. CHANGES ARE A COMING.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:01 pm 
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trublu wrote:
Synbad, do you have to be reminded where we've come from?

We were down and out.
No money
Massive debt
Fractured board
Salary breaches
Banned from the draft for two years
Culture problems

And lead by sticks we've managed to the that around.

We've managed to rebuild the club, back up on our feet and play finals when other clubs like Essendon* and Richmond have had a sweat ride and haven't had to deal with such problems as we have.

I'm not settling for this and I demand more but for flower sakes buddy, we've managed to turn around a rudderless ship in the right direction.

I'd hate to be a melbourne supporter right now.

Its taken the tigers how long to finally have a chance of playing final?.

We've played in 3 finals series after being an absolute basket case and the ,laughing stock of the league.

I think we should applaud the efforts of those who have helped turn it around and maybe now we finally have a coach in charge that has an idea of what it takes and what he needs to win a premiership
And he will make the changes required to get us back up to where collingwood and the leading clubs are at


12 years on.. and were still using this???

Need i remind you were only even afloat cos 2 rich families donate to us...

Yes we won an elimination final... did u crack the champers open??

That was our window.... we managed an eliminational final.

Ask yourself this.. why wont we get 50k members again???

Richmond will.. and they have had 30 years of shit....and havent played in finals

were coming from a long way back... yes i know.....keep telling yourself that!!!!

Were coming from along way back and were rubbish because of one thing...... Were shit in the modern age... we dont get it.. we dont understand it.. and we reject it!!!
Its not bad luck....

Start the hostory of the club in 2000 and tell me what we have...

Thats 14 seasons ago....

Dont talk to me about what George Harris did for the club.... im asking YOU.. what have these guys achieved???

Sticks has been a constant.. and in charge of some of the most horrendous decisions.
He is Frank Spencer.. he leaves a massive mess everywhere... i guess we're Betty... destined to put up with his stupidity and still love him...???

Are you flower serious???

Tell me what his greatest achievement as an administrator is???

Not the pretend stuff.. like Sticks brought Pratt to the club....

Right?????

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:03 pm 
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trublu wrote:
PEOPLE DONT LISTN TO SYNBAD. CHANGES ARE A COMING.


i have no doubt.... but those changes are not in the crucial areas...
sure next year some assistants will get the chop.. maybe another trainer... some players..we might even bring in a big name player...

but Sticks will be in charge of the club in its 150th.......

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