Geelong is a 7 goal better side on talent. We lost by 16 points.
Lucas has no game awareness. Just not afl
A back line including Joseph Davies Scotland and thoHY IS TOO slow
We can not kill the ball in the back line
Murphy was beaten up by number 19. Where was the umpire? Walker flew the flag
Hampson either not fit or hopeless
Rowe excellent always at the contest
Simpson has he lost pace or is he going to lose his spot
Armfield great four qtr effort
Garlett contested and Jamison and walker were superlative
The game was put out of reach by kreuzers injury

I actually think Geelong will win it again this year so I won't join the wrist slashing.

The thing is we are not a good side & not a shit side. Just average. As well as the lack of defensive positioning etc, we lose far too many 1 on 1s.

I hope Malthouse has the kahunas to do with Simpson what Lyon did with Dal Santo - drop him to the 2s.

Nice to see Judd looking fit, & I thought Touhy & Mclean did well...although Brock missed a sitter of a set shot.

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I notice you didn't answer the question, simple as it was. If I had been looking for sarcasm, I'd have couched the question in a fashion that invited it. Something like:

Smedts was quiet because he decided to be quiet do you suppose? Just got out of bed and thought.

"I think I'll go to Docklands and have a lazy five possessions tonight."

But I didn't. I was hoping for something considered. Silly me.

Smedts was shit because Davies didn't let him get near it. For the past two weeks, Smedts has been a link player like the ones you mentioned above and IMO got votes in Rd1. He will be a star. You may not think that Davies can play footy to your lofty standards but if Mick gives him a role and he performs it, maybe that counts for something. I am not suggesting Davies is Judd but he can perhaps do a job on a pretty good player.

It wasn't because players like Davies and Joseph didn't play well that we lost. It was because payers like Gibbs and Simpson, whom we know can play better, just went through the motions. And Murphy let his bloke kick a bag because he has no defensive side and then when he had the opportunity to kick a couple himself, wasn't up to it. Again. And MM hasn't managed to convince anybody at all that they need to man up when the opposition has the footy and is playing keepings off. And because we are playing as though Rowe is Cloke and Hampson is Lynch.

The fringe players like Lucas, Touhy and even AJ, at least had a crack. If everybody had a go, including the once-called best midfield brigade in the comp like the fringe dwellers, the backs wouldn't have to play Space Invaders with the opposition runners as they swarm unopposed from their half back line. And If Garlett mises Betts so much, why did he have his best game for a couple of years last week in the absence of Betts? That statement was just ill considered tripe and speculation.

You will not be satisfied until everybody from the president down is replaced. Even then you'll struggle to post anything positive.

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If he isn't fit he shouldn't be out there. And if you are happy with only one quarter of footy from him, you are playing favourites. I think we are entitled to four quarters from someone of Gibbs supposed talent. If he can't produce it, find someone who can.

We have given him six seasons and he still doesn't play like a top draft pick every week. Or even most weeks.

He's soft and a front runner. He can't get his own footy when it's his turn and he just gets rid of it and stops in his tracks. No follow up second efforts to protect the ball carrier, rarely runs the overlap (unless he's getting an easy possie behind the man with the footy) and is probably the second worst tackler in the side (although he did make ONE stick today and a beauty it was).

We are talking about a 150 odd game player who went #1.

You are harder on Davies and co than Gibbs. If Gibbs went at it as hard as someone like AJ or Touhy, he'd win the Brownlow every year.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Nobody who crosses the white line can be called a coward. It takes balls just to go out there knowing you could finish your day with a broken wrist or dislocated shoulder like two did today.

I agree he doesn't go in hard and put his head over the footy. We see that every week. He's soft and an outside player. Mitch called it a couple of years ago when he said the boys give it to Gibbs for being soft. His own team mates don't respect him.

Armfield has the sort of attack on the ball Gibbs would dream about. Gibbs has the football brain Armfield would dream about. But I'm with you. To paraphrase Denis Pagan, a player who turns up to give his 80-90% every week is worth more than one who gives you 100% very few weeks and nothing much in between.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Gibbs is not a coward. He sets himself up to tackle so players dont side step him

I yelled at it once today at a missed HTM decision in our forward line. It was about 05:30 in the morning. My missus must have just about hit the roof.

Tell your missus it's a natural thing to do.

And I'm pretty sure they CAN hear you.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Spoken like a mad blue.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Cant believe some of the negativity. Think MM is the right coach and people who thought it was top 4 this year or that the blues were gonna change over night are dellusional. They haven't won yet but they have lost 3 very tight games to good opposition. Anyone would think we lost to Melbourne, GWS and WB the last 3 weeks the way some people here carry on. Keep going Blues. And great first kick in footy Bucks

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They coud'nt.....could they?

We've just got to be realistic.

Since 2004 every time Pagan/Ratten came back to the office they found that Wayne Hughes had stuffed several half back flankers in their Christmas stocking. He'd then top up in the rookie draft with a talented couple of small forwards.

When Ratts came in he needed a gameplan to overcome the deficiencies of a HBF dominated list. To make matters tougher he traded the one KPF he had for the best player in the game (hands tied) and gave up draft picks for a developing ruckman (despite having three developing ruckman already on the list).

The result was a one way gameplan which was completely unaccountable. We've also regularly heard his communication with the players was fraught, and that they also in many cases aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. Result: an unsustainable gameplan with little to no player development.

So we've had years of this and we expect it to turn around in three weeks? Won't happen. The good news for Mick is that Hughes got better at drafting half back flankers. Bootsma and McInnes are players that Russell and Benjamin could only dream of being. The problem is that one is injured and one doesn't yet have the bulk.

Meanwhile he's got to drill one way running out of the senior players and somehow discover some key position players on a list where too many have got away with too much for too long and where KPP's are generally not up to it.

That's not an offseason turnaround, it is a project. And that's even without addressing whatever structures the clowns above have provided since 2004 or the substandard development which has occurred in the Bullants. It is a project and it is not a short term one.

In the meantime I'll celebrate the very small steps we take. Bootsma got a couple of good weeks if education, Lucas looks better than incompetent this year, Davies actually played a game last night where he doesn't deserve to get dropped next week, McInnes is one week closer to returning, McLean did well, and the Bullants won.

Travis Varcoe....first player ever to get hurt by Gibbs

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"I had to eat"

The others on our list are yet to notch that feast up.

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The things which stood out for me:
- Gibbs is still the sock cock he was before, no improvement after MM pumped him up in the offseason - he does not care

- Too many bombs out of defense came straight back in and through their posts - I blame the midfield for this as much as the bombs

- Simpson has the shits because he is not captain and I think carrots may too, even though there were signs of improvement this week for carrots

- Hawkins punched Jamo in the guts and then ran round free for 5 mins and scored a goal or 2, great umpiring

- Murphy improved but is not really an inspiring captain, but who should have been, I actually preferred carrots to be

- young bucks looks good

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I will miss you Kouta - thanks for the memories. ps. Kouta > * for ∞

Gibbs excellent in first two rounds but not a great round 3 and he's a soft cock.

I tell you there's a few of them in this thread going by some ridiculous comments.

Look on Davies he was crap!
He doesn't run into any dangerous positions.
He doesn't link up
He has not one creative bone in his body.
You're not going anywhere if you believe keeping a guy to a crap game once on your list of achievements is a good day at the office.

Last week I highlighted using a smaller more agile forward line will become a trend .

This week I will bring up how we don't run into dangerous positions.
Not many of our players run into the hotspot.
Watch how many times Brock bobs up in dangerous scoring positions with his cliff young attitude to keep working hard.
Carrazzo with all his blanketing work on the cheat could have destroyed him by moving into dangerous positions in the hot area of the game.
Our players seldom peel off and add pressure by becoming targets.
We don't lead and work hard enough in the forward zone.
They are used to having it bombed in there.
Don't tell me that's Mick.... It'd our trait not Collingwoods.

Willingness to work hard.
This game is about work rate as much as anything. Laziness is a killer!

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Good morning everyone!

2nd time in 3 weeks we've had something on during game time, 2nd time in 3 weeks that some flower has told me the scores before I could get hone to watch the game I recorded.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

Mick summed it up perfectly intensity and effort is good execution at times hurting

Very competitive with cats and pies

Loss to tigers hurts

I expect us to win 5 of next 7

Poor drafting and trading has put CFC in this position not MM