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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:29 am 
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Seems to me like MM isn't relying on preconceived ideas about players, particularly fringe blokes. It's almost as if they want to select the best match-ups against the opposition and are working towards some sort of goal.... crazy stuff!!!

I am pretty happy with the ins and outs - I just hope Joseph and Buckley play well. I have a soft spot for AJ because I know he has shut players down in the past, so if that is the plan for him I hope he executes it well. Of course, would be great for Buckley to come out in game number one and contribute too.

Very pleased that Rowe looks like he will be given a few games. To be honest, I want Casboult to succeed and be a massive forward target for 5+ years like Petrie or Jack Riewoldt, but he hasn't got the touch at the moment (and we know he doesnt have the boots either...). The best forward tall combo we have at the moment is Rowe and Hampson/Kreuzer.

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FB: Joseph, Jamison, Davies
HB: Scotland, Henderson, Tuohy
C: Simpson, Robinson, Carrazzo
HF: Walker, Rowe, Yarran
FF: Garlett, Hampson, Gibbs
Fol: Kreuzer, Judd, Murphy
Int: Armfield, Lucas, McLean, Buckley

I think the forward six I have listed there (with Armfield subbing through it as needed) has a good blend of marking and speed. Walker and Gibbs can lead up, take contested marks and can crumb. Hampson and Rowe are the pack-crashers. Garlett and Yarran putting on heaps of pressure with their speed, along with Walker too.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:54 am 
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Bell plays one bad quarter and get dropped, Davies was average for the four quarters and remains. Bell would be handy against the bigger bodies of Geelong at Ethiad.

Good to see young Bucks get his chance, he won’t shirk a contest.

FFS Johnston had to back this week.



Unfortunately Bell was crap all game against Collingwood, not just for one quarter. I thought he was probably our poorest player. Whenever he got the ball, which wasn't often, it seemed to end up in a turnover. I think he'll be a good player, but he needs to find form.

The worst one was when he scooped the ball of a pack, charged through a Collingwood tackle and banged it for a classic crumbing goal. How can we forgive him for shit play like that??

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:58 am 
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Unfortunately Laidler is just out of form. Bell and Bootsma cost us the game in the last - they were AWFUL. So no great shock really.

This is just so wrong. We lost last week because we allowed Collingwood to chip and pass twenty metres all over the ground to an unmarked player. Then when we dod get it, we just banged it long and hard to a contest. It was just so dumb. Malthouse should have gone man on man when they changed their game but he was out coached by Buckley in that quarter.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:42 am 
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What's hard to swallow is that 2 of your nominated leaders aren't playing due to lack of form, .and another due to constant injury..says a bit about where the teams at.. agree with the omissions this week and also pleased that a clear consistsnt message regarding specific role performance and selection is being delivered.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:07 am 
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I like what MM is doing. Games into kids or players that weren't getting games under Ratten. This is bigger picture stuff. Our issue has been our depth and our best 22 hasn't been good enough to challenge.

MM will sort out the entire list and its players like Buckley, McCarthy, Graham, Bootsma etc that will take our side forward.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:17 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:36 am 
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Happy enough with the changes however it's a worry having both Davies and Joseph in the side.
I would have given Bell another chance.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:38 am 
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This game is the first time I've tipped us this year. 3 goals.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:00 am 
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MIL wrote:
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All the ins are very good (good luck SOJ :thumbsup: )..... except for.....dear oh dear.....cannot beleive that AJ has got another senior game. What the Flower are they thinking :banghead: He is an absolute liability down back - some of my worst nightmares involve AJ and an opposition small forward. So Bell had an average game, but surely he's shown enough so far to be given another chance over AJ ????


Because we were so good at holding small forwards last week without him?
Varcoe, Motlop, Stokes, Christensen, Smedts. I'm sure we can find a match-up for AJ.

And Bell was terrible in the last quarter last week. I don't have a problem with him missing this week.


There is no small fwd match up for AJ in the AFL. Can't recall seeing anything to change my mind. As a hard tag on a mid, he can be ok. But inside 50 he just can't cut it (very shaky overhead, stuggles to spoil effectively, turns it over etc etc).


On the money MIL. My biggest problem with Joseph is that if (or usually when) he starts getting towelled up by his opponent, there is no plan B for him. He has no other strings to his bow, no offensive weapons. You can't say put him in the centre bounces, or play him as a crumbing forward and hope he kicks a couple of goals.

If his small forward opponent gets on top of him, it really becomes like playing a man down

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:15 am 
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Unfortunately Laidler is just out of form. Bell and Bootsma cost us the game in the last - they were AWFUL. So no great shock really.

This is just so wrong. We lost last week because we allowed Collingwood to chip and pass twenty metres all over the ground to an unmarked player. Then when we dod get it, we just banged it long and hard to a contest. It was just so dumb. Malthouse should have gone man on man when they changed their game but he was out coached by Buckley in that quarter.


This is 100% correct blue sombrero. I was at the game and it was so obvious in the last quarter, they had blokes everywhere 10 - 15 metres clear of their man were just allowed to chip the ball up the field. So often you could see the ball was going to come to a certain player well before it happened and our blokes just refused to man up. They would slowly jog to the man and then once he got the ball they'd be there in time to stand the mark. It looked as though they just literally couldn't run anymore but then when we got the ball they'd be off sprinting again, so perhaps it was just a case of the zone not working. I put the loss down to this alone, this was the only difference between the 2 teams in the last quarter. Hopefully it's been addressed

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:19 am 
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What's hard to swallow is that 2 of your nominated leaders aren't playing due to lack of form, .and another due to constant injury.


Who are the 2?
I thought the leadership group was
Murph
Carrots
Simmo
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Duigan

Duigan being the only one out due to lack of form

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:22 am 
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I'd like to see tuohy given a run up forward. He's been out of form for a while and I think the change would do him good. He's a great kick, can kick goals from outside 50, he's hard at it, and I think his pressure and chasing would be really good as he'd be excited to have a run up forward. Might just play him into some form

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:27 am 
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jake_h03 wrote:

On the money MIL. My biggest problem with Joseph is that if (or usually when) he starts getting towelled up by his opponent, there is no plan B for him. He has no other strings to his bow, no offensive weapons. You can't say put him in the centre bounces, or play him as a crumbing forward and hope he kicks a couple of goals.

If his small forward opponent gets on top of him, it really becomes like playing a man down


..really..?.. ..i'd think his main role is a run-with player, so putting him in at the stoppages is his gig, i also reckon he's suited to playing FP, before BP.. ..it's just that we have a plethora of options for small fwds..

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I am not that confident at Etihad. If it was at the MCG, it'd be a lock.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:38 am 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
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On the money MIL. My biggest problem with Joseph is that if (or usually when) he starts getting towelled up by his opponent, there is no plan B for him. He has no other strings to his bow, no offensive weapons. You can't say put him in the centre bounces, or play him as a crumbing forward and hope he kicks a couple of goals.

If his small forward opponent gets on top of him, it really becomes like playing a man down


..really..?.. ..i'd think his main role is a run-with player, so putting him in at the stoppages is his gig, i also reckon he's suited to playing FP, before BP.. ..it's just that we have a plethora of options for small fwds..


Sorry should have explained better. I think AJs best position is a run with player in the middle, but he's not a ball winner in the middle. He's not an offensive weapon in the middle. Even if he gets the ball, he turns it over too much. My point was, his only real role is a shut down player. Regardless of whether that's in the middle or backline, if his opponent gets on top he has no other strings to his bow, there is no plan b for him.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:38 am 
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jake_h03 wrote:
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What's hard to swallow is that 2 of your nominated leaders aren't playing due to lack of form, .and another due to constant injury.


Who are the 2?
I thought the leadership group was
Murph
Carrots
Simmo
Waite
Duigan

Duigan being the only one out due to lack of form


You need to read it a bit more carefully. Duigan due to form, Waite due to constant injury, 1+1 really = 2.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:05 am 
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woof wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
What's hard to swallow is that 2 of your nominated leaders aren't playing due to lack of form, .and another due to constant injury.


Who are the 2?
I thought the leadership group was
Murph
Carrots
Simmo
Waite
Duigan

Duigan being the only one out due to lack of form


You need to read it a bit more carefully. Duigan due to form, Waite due to constant injury, 1+1 really = 2.


DenimUndies wrote:
What's hard to swallow is that 2 of your nominated leaders aren't playing due to lack of form, .and another due to constant injury


2 due to lack of form
= 2

Another due to constant injury
= 1

2 + 1 = 3

Maybe you need to read it a bit more carefully

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:06 am 
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woof wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
What's hard to swallow is that 2 of your nominated leaders aren't playing due to lack of form, .and another due to constant injury.


Who are the 2?
I thought the leadership group was
Murph
Carrots
Simmo
Waite
Duigan

Duigan being the only one out due to lack of form


You need to read it a bit more carefully. Duigan due to form, Waite due to constant injury, 1+1 really = 2.


Hmm, my kids tell me 1 + 1 = window


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:23 am 
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jake_h03 wrote:
woof wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
What's hard to swallow is that 2 of your nominated leaders aren't playing due to lack of form, .and another due to constant injury.


Who are the 2?
I thought the leadership group was
Murph
Carrots
Simmo
Waite
Duigan

Duigan being the only one out due to lack of form


You need to read it a bit more carefully. Duigan due to form, Waite due to constant injury, 1+1 really = 2.


DenimUndies wrote:
What's hard to swallow is that 2 of your nominated leaders aren't playing due to lack of form, .and another due to constant injury


2 due to lack of form
= 2

Another due to constant injury
= 1

2 + 1 = 3

Maybe you need to read it a bit more carefully

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