Im pretty sure theyre looking at 2nd and 3rd year.
Though they would have hired him for 1st year success at Carlton...

ANDDDDDDD

i reckon our last half will be very good ......well im hoping

Juts heard Pendlebury speak about culture and after the flag Mick was a bit more slack with them and Buckley has tightened the screws again.

I wonder what screws Ratts had been tightening in his 5 years and 6 games at Carlton ???

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i just see how far back our players are mentally and physically

he has a shitload of work to do

i hope it happens as quick as the club wants it to but im not confident

top 8 this year ( i too think we should finish pretty strongly )
top 4 next year might snag one - /???
back that up again with a real tilt at the flag in year 3

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Well, I agree with Effes and Club29 and Rexy and most of you that our administration is a rabble. It was a rabble last year, and it's still a rabble.

I do expect that Malthouse will make a bit of a difference in giving the TEAM a focus and a structure and some steel. But in the end, it's probably re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Until there's a complete revolution at this organisation, we are doomed to long-term failure, and most probably won't exist in 20 years time. We may even sneak in a flag in the next few years, but there's no possibility of sustained success when we have such a dud organisation. I heard an ad on the radio tonight with Kernahan spruiking for 50K members. I had to turn it off in the middle I was so embarrassed. I decided to listen to The Wiggles, Justin Beiber, and One Direction instead - just so I could get some higher intellectual input.

(Some of) you guys can keep deluding yourselves - it's the players they have no heart, it's the coach he's a grumpy old man and used to play for Richmond, it's the umpires they got it in for us, it's the AFL they're out to get us, it's the media it's biased. BULL FLOWER SHIT. It's US!!!!!!! We're a dud club living in the past. Like a bunch of old diggers talking about the good old days.

Here's my question:

HOW COME THAT OF ALL THE 18 YEAR OLD KIDS, WE JUST HAPPEN TO KEEP PICKING THE ONES THAT HAVE NO HEART AND/OR NO SKILLS AND/OR NO FOOTY SMARTS AND/OR NO RESILIENCE AND/OR ARE INJURY PRONE? Answer that! Why are we just so so unlucky? It's weird!!

And secondly, let me turn the "you can't have it both ways" back around on you. Either Ratten is a good coach or he isn't.

1. If he is, then why couldn't he achieve something in 5 and a half years? Clarkson did!
2. If he isn't, then WHOEVER comes in to replace him needs to first undo the damage and then create something new.

3. Why do these questions keep getting asked year in and year out? Is it maybe because the problems run even deeper than who is coaching the team?

I might stop here because there is so much to say and I don't want to dilute the main point.

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If we make the eight this year, I wouldn't be writing us off.

After almost six years of Ratten, can you tell me what his game plan was?

Rather than the obligatory 8 to 10 hand clap emoticons - I reckon that you can just about close half the threads on this website with the above post.

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It's easy to be brainwashed into believing that actually having a final eight is fair and right.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Agree with this completely. Especially on field. I think only Robbo, Judd and Simmo actually look like they try and lift a gear when we need it. And only Robbo seems to get around and try and enthuse the others. Pity he isn't a consistent player. He's the only one with the makings of leadership.

Who would you like to have been made captain?

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Just on footy club admins
Can u imagine Collingwood with our group of coaches???

Wiley he wanted... fair enough every coach has a guy he trusts.
After that we went for O Bree ,Ling, McLeod ad one or two others.
We anded none.

Instead we have Capuano there... Brad Green from Melbourne... Prendergast from Melbourne as forward scout... and a couple of guys on contracts Brown and that Hawthon dude whos been given the bullet by everyone.... who the fupp is Webster???

NOW.... unlike the Collingwood setup who fed the AFL coaches with assistants under Malthouse...

What have we been doing and what are we up to now???

Were a black hole.....

Finances arent what they would like you to think they are... and everything is going so smoothly Sticks will probablly be there again.. as the reluctant preeident

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Anyone but Murphy who needs to concentrate on his footy.

The face that we cant find leadership at the club means we have been doing something wrong.
My guess is partly to blame too Juddcentric and stiffled others around the club who felt they were his inferiors

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I see us as a longer term job than 3 years. I will concede though that he unexpectedly got Coll into a GF in his third year in 2002

Hope it works out the same way at Carlton but I would've interviewed & given the job to the guy who presented the best long term view, preferably a young coach (& saved ourselves a few hundred k). As Grroo says, massive job ahead reprogramming mentally & physically. And no tall forward.

As I've said before, I'm not a Malthouse hater, never was - I actually quite like hearing the guy talk about footy. I just thought his appointment was just so typical Carlton. In my view we did what footy clubs have done before when they've made the finals - overestimated our list.

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Oh and assuming we have conceantrated on pinching blokes from the worst Melbourne club and the best run
Melb and Collingwood.

Melb
Ratten
Riley
Brock
Chris Johnston
Brad Greene
Barry Prendergast

and
Collingwood
Maltouse
Barham
Richardson
Swann
Brown

if you take the median... its AFL average which is where we are...

Why dont we target Geelong guys etc???

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In 2011, Marc Murphy was awarded the coaches award by the AFL coaches. I'd suggest they have a reasonable grasp on who are the gun players.
With regard to performance, our midfield has been top 4 for clearances for 4 years.
Where do the current coaching group take responsibility for a dramatic fall in midfield performance?

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well break down the clearances against the top 10 sides if the competition last year


and then do it again this year...

and we can have a clearer picture where were at


Marc murphy lost his way even before his injury last season

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Oh and Chris judd was comp leader in clearances over the past few years.... but he got ground into dust
he is no longer the player he used to me

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Not many players are, at game 250, the player they were at game 150. By game 250, there aren't too many left to go.

Thats very true and he was still one of best (if not the best) besides being short of a gallop.

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Deep thinking again?

How many brilliant 5 season outside players were asked to play 5 seasons of inside footy?
judd will turn 30 later this year... but that doesnt mean he should be a shadow of his former self

basically Ratten had him at his peak and wasted it all....

But the fact remains.. he was abetter clearance player 2 seasons ago than he is today

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