Can not work out why the subbed laidler thought it should have been davies, and felt it should have happened about 20 mins into the third. BUt having said that Mclean made no impact he is not the sub we are looking for. maybe white as sub

That's actually quite funny - but just to clarify she of course didn't join in the chorus of boos from the Collingwood faithful when Mick Malthouse was shown on the big screen.

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Also thought that Collingwood extends the home ground advantage way too far for their supporters by playing AC/DC right up to the opening bounce given that 99% of their supporters at the ground were conceived whilst their parents were listening to that music.

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ratts would have suceeded maybe in another sphere.
he never would have had the coaching job if not for sticks.... remember that!

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Very disappointing fade out - lead by 10 points at three quarter time -should have mental toughness to win- this group is shocking fragile mentally

I know why laidler was subbed off - missed two crucial punches where he could have killed the ball out of bounds missed and cost us goals -I like him but is out of form /injured and looked exceptionally slow
Having said that Davies fumbles a lot and doesnt ever seem clean - coaches must see more in him than we do
casboult /bootsma not crash hot either but I suspect we should persist

Our top 3 goalkickers betts waite and hampson out so it was always going to be difficult

Jamison is back to his best and I think hendo should in the absence of hampson and waite go to chf

Now only 20 games to try to win 13 to get to the finals

Mick is spinning it big time but we should have been good enough to snare a win in the first 2 matches - you wait 6 months for the footy season and 0-2 with nothing to show and collingwood richmond and Essendon* all in the 8 -long way to go but looks like we are treading water at this stage - hope Mick is right that we are going to get better because otherwise it is going to be a very LONG season

Very disappointing, although refreshing to listen to a post-game press conference which isn't dominated with "stats"

Thanks Wookie. I hadn't seen the game.

Regards Cazzesman

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I think that poster by Yarran right on 3qt was pretty costly in the end. 15 points would have seemed a little more defendable than 10. He seems to have a bit of a fatal attraction to the post at the moment.

I've read the first 10 pages of this thread and that's enough for me. Not gonna bother catching up on the rest, but will add my 2 cents:

Thought we'd get beaten by more pre-game. Hampson and Betts are very important to us and not having them available hurt us a lot. Felt like we were 1 goal away from breaking away at quite a few times, but just couldn't get that goal. Thought Yarran played really well and considering how shattering it would've been for him to miss the potential match winner last week, I don't like saying this much but his miss just before 3/4 time was awfully deflating and gave me a bad feeling about the result straight away.

Laidler was terrible, as was Duigan the week before, but hopefully he finds form again. We know how good he can be. Bootsma looks lost at times, but shows some good signs too. I think he should be persevered with. Davies is a guy that 95% of supporters think is out of his depth and I agree. Armfield and Tuohy had time against Elliott and we saw the results of that matchup.. So unfortunately 4-5 of our worst players were in the defensive area.

Casboult was ineffective, but like Bootsma he does show good signs. Again, I'd stick with him, at least until Waite and Hampson are ready to go (although if Hampson can return this week that creates a selection dilemma). Rowe showed good signs too, but Casboult has a few more years up his sleeve and potential to improve more i think.

Lucas missed 2 tackles, but was otherwise very good. His mark running back with the flight when he had the head clash with Walker showed that he's more committed to the contest than we've seen in the past and his confidence is certainly increasing.

But while it's easy to discuss individual players, some posters above have identified the true problem, and that is our inability to possess the ball when we're under the pump. All our midfield group (even the better users of the ball) just belted mongrel punts forward in the last 1/4. There was an absolute lack of composure and ability to spot up a target, which was often available laterally if they looked. Robinson was probably the worst for this, but we saw it from Bell, Murphy, Carrazzo etc. too. This has been a trait of this team for many years. It was the inability of Ratten to get these players to improve in this area that led to his dismissal and it will be Malthouse's ability to rectify this problem that will determine how successful his tenure here is. We can whinge and moan about a lack of key forwards and say that things will be better with Waite down there, but if our mids continue to s**t themselves every time they're under the pump and continue bombing it forward to no one in particular, then it won't matter who lines up at FF.

I actually have faith in Malthouse to improve our current list in this area and identify players who possess the right skillset and mental capabilities to hit targets under pressure, I'm just not delusional enough to expect to see instant results. The fact that we played far better this week than the week before is a good enough indication to me that I should keep the faith in where the club is heading.

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Laidler was out on his feet.Had to be subbed.

Good post.

McLean should never have been the sub ... he was made to run all day ... amazing that the coach and MC still don't get it.

Davies should never have been picked.

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I picked him as sub pre-game...but reckon it was wrong now. He's an accumulator, works his way into a game.

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I guess Hawthorn's midfield coach is mates with Newbloke too.

Your knowledge is wasted if you can spot coaches and talent.

Brock had 9 possies in the last qtr when pace was off the game, I thought it worked well. Arguably he could have subbed on in 3rd qtr, given Laids and Davies were struggling and it was day for the small forwards.

Brock had 9 possies in the last qtr when pace was off the game, I thought it worked well. Arguably he could have subbed on in 3rd qtr, given Laids and Davies were struggling and it was day for the small forwards.

It wouldn't surprise me if they dropped him for the next game ... If they do ... all my concerns about the MC will be confirmed.

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I'll be staggered if he gets dropped against the Cats...or maybe I won't

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Agree. Easily our biggest issue. Our setting up in our forward line, our making position, and the rest of the team looking for them. We are so DUMB in the forward half.

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