Yeah, forget Hird, Lyon and Sanderson. Lets look at the relevant ones.
Neeld! Retrofitted the Malthouse gameplan to Melbourne. Thats going well.
Watters is another MM protege who praised his gameplan and wanted to bring the principles to the Saints. St Kilda are on fire!

Some people need to get a grip.

Forget Port. They've beaten no one. They're only second on the ladder! Plus they took our former senior assistant. You know, the one we paid out to get in a senior assistant who hasnt had an AFL level job for 10 years. Plus those decisions cost us over 2 million dollars! Ha. we stuck it to them.
Champion decisions. Our board are great thinkers.

We're just unlucky. Non decisions by the umps, Armfields push in the back. Piss weak players etc etc etc Unlucky.
Get a grip you lot.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Rank outsiders vs wc?

Interesting observations Boris. I didn't see the game but it sounds like the last quarter was a bit disappointing. I think we have a fair way to go yet and only time will tell. I am not sure what I am expecting this season. I know what I am hoping for. I've read a lot of the post match comments from my fellow TC'ers and there is a lot of disappointment and frustrations shown. We must remember that even though the Scum had some good players out we also had several key players missing and quite a deal of inexperience in our side as well. The Scum are pretty well drilled and this obviously showed in the end. If I recall we won these two games last season but that did not make any difference at the end of the day. Don't forget Ratts had over 5 years, Micks only had 2 games so far. I am prepared for the long haul.

harry obrien must stink so bad or be THAT much of a faaaarkhead coz no-one went near him all day

Forget the last 10 minutes; and it was anyone's game......when the REAL pressure was applied; we were found wanting.

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

More to the point, Gibbs got towelled up

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"I had to eat"

Slightly

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"I had to eat"

Gutted. Before the game I didn't think we would win, but as the game panned out we should have been able to win it.

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Formerly Blues-Back2003.

I hate to say this because Gibbs has been looking great this year; but; he stopped as though shot a few times today when confronted by an opponent who wanted the ball more than him.

It was embarrassing to watch.......

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

Yes, over there for sure.

Better times ahead, maybe, but knowing that some players can't play for crap doesn't help. The improvement was always going to come from the better credentialed players. It still probably won't be enough. All it takes is a couple of posters to get a bit emotional and suddenly the bigger picture is irrelevant.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Went to the game, thought it was a great game and with 3 minutes to go either team could have won.
Yes, we did run out of puff which was surprising considering we had an extra 3 days off.
We need to work on our tackling as so many were too easily shrugged off.
Some of our younger players were a bit overawed, Bell got caught too many times.
Laidler was disappointing as was Simpson again.
Really pleased with Yarran and Garlett, Judd had a great first half and Murphy was good. Kreuzer dominated, as he should.
Disappointing to go down to them, had feral supporters in front of us.
Umpiring was terrible and we really got a rough deal from them.
Oh well, i picked 9 winners.

Because he spent over five years accumulating half back flankers and today we have no identifiable leaders , forward, players who run two ways and winners.

Anyway it's the fault of Sticks Kernahan.
Quicker people realize we are ordinary on field because it mirrors or off field group the better.
Still I'm expecting muck to improve the terrible culture we have created.

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I was worried at 3qt...far more upside for them than us...should have been further ahead, but having said that didn't think we wasted many opportunities.

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"I had to eat"

Russell was OK though playing for the winning side.

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I think we are being a tad harsh on our performance today. I would prefer to wait and reserve judgement after 7 - 8 rounds. We should have a better idea by then.

The endeavour and application was there and better than last week, but I don't think we have enough quality at the bottom end of our list.
We continually get found out with silly errors and a lack of composure. Both Bootsma and Davies were poor today and you can't have too many passengers if you want to win matches. Lack of development over the last 2-3 years is really hurting us.

I also believe Henderson needs to go forward. We are a one trick pony when it comes to our forward structure and avenue to goals. Our smaller forwards were great today but small forwards don't win you premierships. Need a lead up forward who can take a mark and run to the right positions and offer a genuine target. Not simply rely on flukey goals and big pack marks.

It's the same old story with this club they have an attitude of fragility with no appetite for the hard work to make a contest of a game against fierce opposition when required.

The clubs that do have this appetite like Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn, etc and those weaker clubs like Richmond and dare I say even Port Adelaide know this and know if they truly set themselves for a game against us that they are in with a chance if they have a red hot crack at us because they know we will fold like a pack of cards.

Collingwood showed they have the appetite and heart required to do the things that were needed in the lasr quarter to win this game - we predictably folded like a pack of cards.

Until every player on our side is prepared to work hard for themselves and each other then we will only every be mediocre.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

He might go thee more often now.

Rowe isn't bad as a CHB either.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

The biggest annoyance for me today were the differing kick outs.

On one hand when collingwood scored a behind, they would zone/press up into position immediately and someone would man the mark 2m out from the goal square and immediately pressure our kick taker should he decide to play on. When our players kicked to themselves from a kick in they would take 3 steps and face immediate pressure and would only be able to kick to 55-60m.

On the other hand when our boys kicked a behind it was a light jog to position and the bloke on the mark (a few times this was Yarran) would stand 8-10m out from the goal square and lightly jog in the direction that the pies player would choose to play on to, allowing him to run to 25m from goal and execute a long kick to 70m from goal.

It may seem minor, but these easy metres over 120 mins of footy and the lazy mindset are worth their weight in gold. Pies always wanted to apply all the pressure they could whilst our boys chose when to apply it. Until these chinks are ironed out we will only be a middle of the road team

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They wanted it more. Our players did not want the ball when it counted. That is the true story.
I thought Malthouse coached well today and got his match-up's right.
Collingwood just wanted the win in the end and except for a limited few, our boys waited for some-one else to do it.
Seen it before with these guys unfortunately.