I hope you're right. I'm not so confident he'll make the grade as a key defender. Time will tell.

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1. That persona that gave the Tigers their last 3 goals purely through a lack of discipline.
2. Hopefully this week

This! I always feel calm when laidler had the ball, or in a contest for that matter. While I like duigan, he's not as reliable with the ball and I always feel nervous when he's in a one on one. It's almost as if he's trying so hard that he overdoes the effort it causes him to give away clumsy frees. He was good in 2011 though

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It does matter who plays when some players don't have the necessary skills to execute a game plan and others do!!!!!!

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I dare say Carey is the only type that's gunna ever be a Carey.

Hampson was our only dangerous marking target last night and you want to drop him?

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Not a bad idea. Hard to leave him out of the side though as we know what he's capable of

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Why Bell didn't play last night is bryond me. He mustn't be in micks good book, rarely given game time on NAB Cup and after killing it in the Reserves last week before being rested at half time only to be overlooked again.
He's an enforcer, strong, courageous and will run all day, unleash the bull next week.

Out: boots, Duigan, casboult

In: bell, Rowe, Laidler

Laidler. Jamo. Joseph
Walks. Hendo. Yarran.
Simmo. McLean. Lucas.
Murph. Rowe. Robbo.
Betts. Hammer. Garlett.
Kreuz. Gibbs. Judd.
Carrots. Bell. Army. Sub: tuohy

Joseph to play negating role, the one thing he does well, be a pest.

He was our dangerous marking forward because he was first banana...
He wasnt dangerous at all... what did he kick??... and how many goals did he contribute towards?
How many times did he clear a path for the small guys and how many balls did he bring to ground???
Pressure???

He was terrible....

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At least he's taking grabs synners. He's half way there. We need to persist with and improve his deficiencies. Who else on our list can take marks in the forward line like that? The only one is Waite. Hammer might not have kicked a lot of goals but who else would have if they can't even mark it? To say he was terrible is ridiculous. He was the only forward who at least looked dangerous

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The biggest mystery from pre-season!
Looked good in the first round of NAB then for some unknown reason, plays sub against freo (ok, perhaps to manage his game loads). Then he isn't even in the squad against the crows!

Plays well for NB and as you mention taken off at half time and still doesn't get a look in!

There has been a constant concern regarding our clearances and work around the contested ball. We got mauled again last night! We need more bulls around the contested ball. We have just fallen behind in this area. And to think we were in top 3 in the league in 2010 & 2011

Somethings got to give here. There were a lot of disappointing performers last night. Half of our mids let us down badly!

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C'mon Blueboys!

Or maybe we should go back to sitting it on eddies head?

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I saw what Hammer did and he presented, marked and crashed like many others witnessed.
I'm not saying he was BOG, but based on the cattle we had on the field and their returns Hammer was ahead of Casboult for a start.

The kicking in the air to Hammer and Casboult gave them 0 (zero) chance of reaching let alone marking so those inside entries counted for shit rataher than count as an opportunity to Hammer. Hammer could have kicked 5. He showed that promise. Now I don't care if we drop him for someone that size who is better, but I cant see them. Rowe is guesswork anyway, and he'd be Casboults replacement if he comes in.

I see Warnock No 1 ruck, to win the ruck.
I see Kreuzer playing CHF and ruck roving with Gibbs and Judd and mixing it in the ruck.
I see Hammer as the lead up FF till Waite is back and mixing it up as ruckman too.

I don't want 3 ruckmen in the side, I want the best ruckman, the best ruck rover, the best FF and the best CHF we can select.

I prefer to have Hendo at CHF if we had a supremely dominant, consistently winning midfield but we don't.

Maybe Warnock is the reason maybe its the midfield.
What I do know is if Warnock can get to the ball first (ie before Maric could ever dream) then he can put it or punch it ahead whereever the best is for thr side rather than nullifying and getting it to no one nor to plan.

Something is wrong at the clearances, now and the preseason, so I reckon we take advantage of our best available in there and the only change I could see is Warnock (and Bell) rather than wait for the midfield to wake up and take advantage of the opposition rucks dominance. Lets hit the ball where we want rather than hope Kreuzer gets his hand to it.

Waite and Hendo for KPF will not happen more than it wiull and its a case of us to see who the best available in our best 35 is and play them with the view to improve tham and gel with the team rather than hope our next best fill the void.

Plenty of time for those not the best 22, 23, 24, 25 ...so for me just the best available is what I want because the 4 points are too important over 22 weeks (unless MM is giving everyone opportunity despite other selections being better because its better for our prospects)...just mu opinion about where the list is ...our developing KP's are young and raw and a long way from their peak...just happens to be that our 3 ruckmen may be ahead of other for KPF roles.

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Hampson needs to attack the ball with intensity... he doesnt need to mark it every time.. but he needs to create a contest.
He needs to bring it to the ground and he needs to make defenders earn any mark if he doesnt mark it.
Too easily knocked off the ball.. and out of the contest ......
and he needs to chase hard and tackle pressureize the defence to create spills
Lets face it ... he is not ripping it up in the ruck either
There should be questions asked of Capuano... how long has he been ruck coach??...what results has he been kept on with???
. were paying guys peanuts and we have monkeys at the club

If youre not going to cut it as a ruckman... or a forward.... not sure why you need to be an automatic choice....

Warnock is more likely to give us an advantage in the ruck... which settles Kreuser on the ground and in the forward line...as the Leigh Brown forward... now he will pressure .. contest and take an equal amount of marks as hamer... but he brings so much more that we need in the forward line...an upgrade on the clueless Hampson... and Warnock an upgrade in the ruck.

Hampson is that girl we have all known .... a full on cock teaser.... the girl u think u r in with a chance ... but utimately youre doomed to never get into...

Hes better off in the resies as first ruck... and not forward... playing 100 mins a wee for a few weeks just learning to ruck...
He will be better vaule doing that

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Agree Bondiblue. I was under the impression Hampson was far from the issue last night.
In fact I thought he showed plenty.

What kind of plenty did he show exactly???

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Agree Hammer has been a tease, but last night he got better at bringing the ball to ground for the crumbers. He should have kicked 4 and that's a mark against him, but you've seen his last couple of years. he usually takes 6 weeks to hit his straps before an untimely injury. This season he's started off as a compelling marking target - if he can adjust his kicking, and set that as a benchmark, he'll be a more than handy forward. He's a highly competent ruckman who will never be first ruck with K and W on the list.

Warnock is a class tap ruck but he hasn't shown he's strong, durable or versatile enough for the job

My question is whether Hampson and Casboult can both be effective as permanent forwards.

Casboult is a forward with some pretty big defiiencies.. and Hampson is not a forward....

Actually Setanta would have been more value than the pair of them last night....Thats the flower irony....
Hampson has in his last 2 games done what Setanta got the bullet for in a WC final.. where he kicked 3 goals and set up a couple in a high pressure cooker game... none of this flaking in NAB cup and games against Richmond failures.

and Rowe??Will he play any games for us??... and will they all amount to five games???

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Haha....Setanta does come to mind when you watch Hampson. Setanta was a good soldier and better at ground level than Hampson. Unfortunately we don't have any real gun tall forward prospects other than Henderson. Didn't think you wanted to leave our backline to the tender mercies of Matthew Watson...

Love to know what Hampsons stats are for tackles.........
and how many forced assists to goals he gets involved in....

The guy needs to get fierce.. all that athletic ability and God given physical attributes and he plays like a Ken Barbie doll

Setanta was also a better kick for goal than both Casboult and Hampson and he was a Hurler...

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Agree Hammer could put more forward pressure on. Needs to work on his recovery after contests. But in the last season or so, I've seen him hit packs really hard and hurt opponents.

Is Ken Barbie the brother of Klaus Barbie? I believe he has no brass balls.