Theres no need to sook up London Blue.
You stated Mick left the bulldogs better placed. i looked it up and they finished 13th and almost merged with Fitzroy when he walked out.
Would you rather I pretend and say they finished first and made a million dollars? Bag Ratten by all means but lets try to avoid fabricating facts to justify it.

I'm happy for people to laud Malthouse and demean Ratten but lets be fair about it.
If you're going to pass judgement on them, judge them by the same criteria.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

The reality is predictions are bullshit.

You only need to look at the various media/forum "experts" 12 months later to realise how out of whack assumptions and outcomes can be.

You can make very good arguments for both sides of the coaching debate.

The appointment of Malthouse might be a stroke of genius based on his capacity to lead us out of the wilderness or it might work based on the stars aligning at a fortuitous time.

Or it might be an unmitigated disaster for the opposite reasons.

Either way we're only going to know in 3-4 years.

Mick's our coach for now and I'll back him 100% until I don't just as I did with Ratts, Pagan, Brittain etc, etc,...

And when he flowers up it's open season.

As it always has been and as it always should be.

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Turkish Proverb

You know if you come to coach carlton theres a fair chance that when you leave you are finished as a coach

Unless you can produce a flag

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Ratten, end of the line?
Pagan, end of the line
Brittain, end of the line
Parkin, end of the line
Jesaulenko, end of the line
Walls...survived

Or perhaps it's that many Carlton supporters just spit the dummy and lose all sense of perspective at the first sign that things are not going exactly according to plan?

Perhaps it's just that the grass is always greener on the other side?

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very funny BV......reads like you are the one 'sooking' up

Interesting comment made by Carrots on Game Day last week when he mentioned that MM was still finding ways to motivate some players.

I wonder who seems to be unmotivated under MM.

Can't stand the man and never have. An absolute old coot.

v.

A Club Champion who proved that he couldn't keep pace with the game nor opposition movements.

For 2013 I don't think there's a doubt we're in better hands with Malthouse as a Coach. Not sure that says alot other than Ratten struggled. Genuinely struggled.

I genuinely felt we were surging in 2011 and getting better off the back of a maturing defence and ruck unit. Then last year was a disaster; part injury, part Coach, part stagnant list development which to me is at least responsible for loss of pressure on places. I feel as thought 2012 was an abherration but do I think improvement on 2011 is good enough to become top 4, if Malthouse and the list can manage that? Only if we're very lucky.

Good @#$%&! lord if Mick Malthouse can't motivate you then who can?!

James Hird

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"GIBBS."

That is just staggering.
Are we picking the wrong players or is it a cultural issue?

A nice (and scary) little insight into Carlton's ability to one week look like worldbeaters, and the next week look like they'd rather not be out there. Even poor teams can get up for the odd game, but only teams that find a way to consistently produce near their best will ever have genuine success.

If that is the case I would suggest that any player in that category might be looking for a new club at the end of this year. I find it staggering that a player at this level would have difficulty being "motivated".

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

Only going off memory however I thought carrots meant that MM was treating everyone individually and using different techniques for different people. As in what a good leader does.

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We are on our way back...

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

While the Carlton players are regarded as a very coachable and compliant group, it is believed there wasn't great enthusiasm among some players for the concept of placing an opposition player in the cross-hairs.
Ultimately, the Blues binned the idea of putting an opposing player in their sights. Judd and Murphy have never been afforded the type of protection that Gary Ablett received from his pugnacious former teammates at Geelong, whose midfielders are not dirty, or vicious in any way, but were certainly physically imposing from 2007-11.


Which is all very laudable (really it is...fair play is to be applauded) but I suspect sociable football doesn't get you very far in this competition. Rambo Stallone was right all along. Too many mummy's boys, not enough beards (and he said this when beards were for men, not for hipsters)

I always was a rambo disciple
GET BEARDS

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Some of us have been highlighting these issues with our players over the past 2 years or so. I don't understand why some are so surprised after this article.

Please tell me he was misquoted there

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

Professional footballers shouldnt/dont require external motivation. The days of "Ra Ra" are virtually gone.
Many of the coaches rarely speak to the players immediately before going out to play.
The key is having a game plan that has total "buy in" from the playing group. Once they are all on the same page and believe in the game style bringing them success, that possibility of success will breed the fanatacism required.
Give it a bit of time. Malthouse fosters good relationships with the players which is conducive to the players "playing for the coach"
Thats half the battle.

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