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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:57 am 
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Simmo has had a pretty horrid Pre Season campaign all together I reckon.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:35 am 
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chubbyruss wrote:
Thought that Murphy Judd Gibbs McLean Carotts Betts Walker & Kreuzer all put up the shutters in the 2nd half

That stood out most for me.
Other observations: Walker is an in between player, he struggles to contest one on one when the ball comes in, but then acts like a key forward in not chasing hard enough to keep the ball in.
The fane was about giving forwards one on one practise. White looked far more comfortable in back line.
Bootsma will be a player, like many though lacks confidence.
Loved to see casboult clunking a few, just need more of it.
Brown loves playing us.
I saw what I see as the main problem we've had for a while is that when we get in front through hard work we too quickly ease up, there's a collective relaxing as if they say 'how easy is this' and then play as if it will just happen. We need these new leaders to stand up now heading into round 1.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:42 am 
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Haven't watched the replay, but can someone clarify for me, was there a bit in the 2nd qtr where we got a free, but they took it...

....and were courteous enough to kick it the wrong way anyway, then get caught holding the ball? :lol:

Stupid dumb umpire pointing the wrong way.

Happened another time also, Merret marked the ball but gave away a free, played on because the stupid dumb umpire pointed the wrong way which incurred a 50 and Gibbs got the handball and kicked a 9 pointer.

Seriously, if you point the wrong way you have to give some leniency.....it's just so logical that I'm not surprised the maggot thinks its so illogical

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:52 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Waler needs to be our aerobic midfielder...
but he needs to work seflessly for that role.. work and present and link up.
kind of like dane beams does over at collingwood

we have too many show ponies with terrible work ethic

he's aerobic, but not a good thinker under pressure

either him or Waite (not both) deep forward for mine


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:56 am 
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Kane Lucas.... Another Wayne Hughes special gone wrong.

A high draft pick who is very selfish, cant kick and hardly ever makes proper decisions... And he's been in the AFL system for 3 years!! And to top if off he's a Squib Master.

Will be givin a chance to prove himelf to MM, but Mick will tire of Lucas's constant sqibbing and selfishness, and he ll use him as trade bait at the end of the year.

i agree with this. hope to be proved wrong.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:01 am 
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Papers are reporting that Robbo could be in trouble for a sling tackle. Anything to worry about? I was at the game and remember Rich being on the ground but dont recall the incident.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:15 am 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
Kane Lucas.... Another Wayne Hughes special gone wrong.

A high draft pick who is very selfish, cant kick and hardly ever makes proper decisions... And he's been in the AFL system for 3 years!! And to top if off he's a Squib Master.

Will be givin a chance to prove himelf to MM, but Mick will tire of Lucas's constant sqibbing and selfishness, and he ll use him as trade bait at the end of the year.


Give the guy a break for crying out loud. Every week I feel Lucas has gotten better and better. Last week he kicked three goals to half time.

This week had 34 possessions and whilst a few were turnovers, majority hit the intended target. Alot of his possesions were quick handballs that he dished off after winning contested possesions.

To say he is also selfish is a joke, last night he dished off a handball to Walker when he was in range to score. If i was Mick I would of had a go at Lucas for not having a shot.

Instead of always focusing on the negative things he does which last night was minimal, lets highlight the good he does.

It seems every year there is a new player that supporters want to bag no matter what they do, this year its Lucas. I just see it having no purpose to the player or the team as a whole.

He was in our best three players last night.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:32 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:36 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
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Any tips for the Michael Tuck? Somewhere between Murphy, McLean, Carrots and Betts so far...


Daniel Rich.


Thanks for coming....


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:45 am 
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keogh wrote:
We simply arnt good enough


You may well be right.

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Anyway obviously didnt see the game


But you should have stopped here.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:47 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
keogh wrote:
We simply arnt good enough


You may well be right.

keogh wrote:
Anyway obviously didnt see the game


But you should have stopped here.


Yep, well before stating Duigan should have been captain...

Where, from the seconds??...


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:57 am 
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keogh wrote:
The Mark of Cain were awesome last night
What a great Aussie band


Anyway obviously didnt see the game but some supporters on here have no idea

We simply arnt good enough
Too many guys cant kick the ball
reading the posts we turned the ball over too easily
where have I heard that before
Too many flash in the pan footballers who dont do the team things
I just hope MM drops these blokes and doesnt treat them like kids gloves like our previous coach

And for what its worth Murphy too me is not a great choice as captain

I really would like to have seen Duigan or even Henderson as captain


Still drunk from last night Keogh? Seriously...that's serious trolling, or you've got a screw loose.

I'm extremely happy...I had money on the Lions (and Daniel Rich) ....and there's a simple reason for it. They had set themselves up for this with their training program. We hadn't (despite what the coach tells the media). They'll start the year like a house on fire and tire as the season wears on. Our focus is Round 1. There's still some team rules to get right, but let's not get on our high horse about a game you didn't see. The second quarter was what you'll see more of come Round 1. We'll taper down now ready for the Tigers. I'd encourage you to watch the 2nd qtr when it's posted on here and just watch Gibbs. Outstanding.

BTW - Murphy is a solid choice as captain. As would Simpson and Carrazzo have been. Henderson isn't in the leadership group and doesn't have any desire to be, so why would you make a bloke who harbors no desire to be a leader the Captain of your football club???


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:06 am 
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They had set themselves up for this with their training program. We hadn't (despite what the coach tells the media). They'll start the year like a house on fire and tire as the season wears on. Our focus is Round 1.



That was pretty clear from the way the Carlton players looked like they needed a lie down and a cuppa half way through the 3rd 1/4. Judd barely got above a jog.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:09 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
keogh wrote:
The Mark of Cain were awesome last night
What a great Aussie band


Anyway obviously didnt see the game but some supporters on here have no idea

We simply arnt good enough
Too many guys cant kick the ball
reading the posts we turned the ball over too easily
where have I heard that before
Too many flash in the pan footballers who dont do the team things
I just hope MM drops these blokes and doesnt treat them like kids gloves like our previous coach

And for what its worth Murphy too me is not a great choice as captain

I really would like to have seen Duigan or even Henderson as captain


Still drunk from last night Keogh? Seriously...that's serious trolling, or you've got a screw loose.

I'm extremely happy...I had money on the Lions (and Daniel Rich) ....and there's a simple reason for it. They had set themselves up for this with their training program. We hadn't (despite what the coach tells the media). They'll start the year like a house on fire and tire as the season wears on. Our focus is Round 1. There's still some team rules to get right, but let's not get on our high horse about a game you didn't see. The second quarter was what you'll see more of come Round 1. We'll taper down now ready for the Tigers. I'd encourage you to watch the 2nd qtr when it's posted on here and just watch Gibbs. Outstanding.

BTW - Murphy is a solid choice as captain. As would Simpson and Carrazzo have been. Henderson isn't in the leadership group and doesn't have any desire to be, so why would you make a bloke who harbors no desire to be a leader the Captain of your football club???


Some sense at last.

Agree on Gibbs also. He was awesome for part of the first and all of the second qtr.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:12 am 
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Our game was rubbish on all fronts. Our big men up forward did nothing, then again they were given little chance with the way the ball was bombed in. Rarely did the split the pack to create crumbing chances but when they did rarely did we gather the crumbs. What did Hampson Walker and White have in common? I got as many or more marks as they did and I was sitting in the top deck. I mean that literally, I marked Zorko's bomb into the third level, admittedly it came to me lace out, I don't even think my butt lost contact with the seat. But for all that they could complain about supply they didn't do much to help themselves.

Our field kicking - scratch that, ALL our kicking - was pathetic, when we did try to spot someone up we missed far too often and in particular our long bombs into the forward line seemed to pick out the defenders as if that was who we were aiming at. No defensive pressure forward back or middle meant the Lions were able to hit their targets with regularity. Blind hacks out of the backline turned the ball over time and time again.

We got smashed in the clearences even though Kreuz did well with the taps - it just goes to show how little value there is in getting hitouts - it is hitouts to advantage that matter. You win the hitout but not to advantage and the best that can be said is that at least the opposition didn't get to feed it down the throat of their small men - but often you've done it for them!

Gibbs, Lucas' ability to accumulate stats even though he turned them over a bit, Kreuze winning the taps even if not to advantage, the fightback from late Q1 to half-time, not a lot of positives but I guess it's better now than in the real season.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:23 am 
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I was happy with Casboult's game Ian. Hampson on the other hand was beaten by a kid in his 2nd year of footy and a Melbourne reject who was playing Amateur footy a few years ago. Not that it surprised me I just doubt it'll ever click.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:23 am 
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I don't want too take last night's result too seriously but our lack of a key target up forward is still noticeable. Levi can look good at times but is not a game breaker at this stage. Not sure about Hampson. Desperately need someone like Luke Mitchell to come up. I won't even bother with Waite.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:33 am 
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I don't want too take last night's result too seriously but our lack of a key target up forward is still noticeable. Levi can look good at times but is not a game breaker at this stage. Not sure about Hampson. Desperately need someone like Luke Mitchell to come up. I won't even bother with Waite.


Agree on Hampson, he has no idea on how to take a contested mark, or even how to give himself a chance of taking it. He just stands and reaches back for the footy as it goes over his head, even if it is a high bomb, allowing any half-competent defender to easily knock or away. He'll never be a serious key forward option until he learns to do this better.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:35 am 
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I was disappointed but mostly because I shelled out for it and watched a very poor performance overall. I'm going to reserve judgement until the season proper though.

Some things I did notice

- bombing into the forward 50 is still an issue. Would love to know how many marks they took in our forward line.
- too many players can't/won't play in front, why?
- the importance of a crumber like Garlett was really noticeable last night in his absence. I can see why he was played last year even though he was in poor form
- too many times our taps go straight down to an opposition player. Why not try punching them out of the congestion?

Walker and Simpson have been horrible this preseason.

I think Gibbs has had a good preseason overall.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:42 pm 
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And for what its worth Murphy too me is not a great choice as captain




Is that because he's a Private School boy and it offenders your left wing intellect?

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