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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:59 am 
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White is the interesting one. His versatility gives him a spot for me.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:57 am 
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harker wrote:
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Looking forward to the "real' stuff. Real blockbuster feel with Tigers being built up as a finals side.

This is what I believe MM will go with:

B: Tuohy Jamison Laidler
HB: Yarran Henderson Duigan

C: Gibbs Carrazzo(c) Armfield
Foll: Kruezer Judd Murphy

HF: Garlett Rowe Robinson
F: Betts Casboult Walker

Int: Lucas Simpson McLean White
Em: Bell Hampson Dale

Not considered: Scotland Waite Ellard Graham OKeefe Collins McInnes


Backline: That's the most probable back 6. If we see it up again on Friday, then it's as close to a lock as can be.

Centre: Simpson for Armfield and the rest almost pick themselves.

Forwards: Just can't see us risking it with two relative newbies in key posts.

Walker Casboult Armfield
Betts Hamspon Garlett

Int: McLean Robinson Lucas White.................gives us the cover we need around the ground.

A bit tough on Bell though and I wouldn't be surprised at all for him to make the squad at all.
Warnock should also be there, but now it's getting a little tricky if Hampson is destined for a forward spot.


I think the team is astarting to take shape and almost predictable at this stage.
I understand Psych's team but I prefer your team and thinking Harker with Hammer replacing Rowe.

As for cover, I 'm not sure what White is going to cover unless we have a ruckman get injured or a tall backman gets injured. Could we play with one big man down if we didn't have White?

I do prefer to take the risk and play Bell instead of White, because if we're winning the ball and midfield battle we should give the backline some relief and provide the forwards with a more opportunity.

The big question for me is whether MM plays Warnock or Hampson. Anybody's guess, but if MM is true to his word that the players pick themselves then Hampson imo has shown a bit more than Warnock in the NAB games.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:33 pm 
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/l ... 2fn1o.html

Aside from not including Armfield and Lucas, I reckon Will Brodie is close and makes some reasonable observations. (Plus round 1, we won't see Waite)

Considering the form of the two above, it is terrific to have such solid competition for spots.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:52 pm 
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harker wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Looking forward to the "real' stuff. Real blockbuster feel with Tigers being built up as a finals side.

This is what I believe MM will go with:

B: Tuohy Jamison Laidler
HB: Yarran Henderson Duigan

C: Gibbs Carrazzo(c) Armfield
Foll: Kruezer Judd Murphy

HF: Garlett Rowe Robinson
F: Betts Casboult Walker

Int: Lucas Simpson McLean White
Em: Bell Hampson Dale

Not considered: Scotland Waite Ellard Graham OKeefe Collins McInnes


Backline: That's the most probable back 6. If we see it up again on Friday, then it's as close to a lock as can be.

Centre: Simpson for Armfield and the rest almost pick themselves.

Forwards: Just can't see us risking it with two relative newbies in key posts.

Walker Casboult Armfield
Betts Hamspon Garlett

Int: McLean Robinson Lucas White.................gives us the cover we need around the ground.

A bit tough on Bell though and I wouldn't be surprised at all for him to make the squad at all.
Warnock should also be there, but now it's getting a little tricky if Hampson is destined for a forward spot.


Fair points Harks.

I am not against Hampson playing at all and if he does will probably be in place of Rowe. Be interesting to see what will happen once Waite is fit.

In all fairness I don't think the MC are totally convinced on the right way to go either.

If Watson or McCarthy were pushing for a spot Henderson may be a forward option as well. White has played well in pre season and is so valuable as a swing option.

The other one for me is Rowe as a defender. I said this a long while ago but I believe he is more suited to a key defensive role and his size would be very useful. Interesting to see he play CHB for reserves on Friday night and did well.

Effectively we have Jamison Watson McCarthy Henderson Rowe Casboult Hampson Kruezer pushing for 4 key position roles. I see Waite, Laidler, White, Walker and McInnes as our 3rd tall options.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:13 pm 
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watson will be a good bullant


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:23 pm 
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Can't believe how many of you pricks don't have Rob Warnock in your Rnd 1 team! Anyone fancy a small wager?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:53 pm 
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Glad I don't have to pick the side.

Hampson is too good to leave out and if he is played regularly, will be hard to beat by seasons end.

No secrets that the tigers will be extremely tough to beat and rightly so. They have been (re)building a very good side in the correct manner over the past few years. I can't stand them but credit where it's due, they have gone about their business well and are due for results.

We'll need to summon all the powers of greyskull for a win.

We have the power.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:09 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Can't believe how many of you pricks don't have Rob Warnock in your Rnd 1 team! Anyone fancy a small wager?


I'm not saying he wont be picked. I'm just picking the team I'd prefer and Warnock is third in line.
He may be the best of the lot in a couple of years but at the moment, he offers zero flexibility and his strength in a marking contest is non existent. Hammer has far more upside if he can stay fit IMHO.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:02 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Can't believe how many of you pricks don't have Rob Warnock in your Rnd 1 team! Anyone fancy a small wager?


My personal opinion is he should be first picked. Just not sure how MM will go and to be honest the NAB Cup hasn't made it any clearer.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:14 pm 
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Have a look at the 2nd qtr vs Adelaide again.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:32 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Can't believe how many of you pricks don't have Rob Warnock in your Rnd 1 team! Anyone fancy a small wager?


For me its a case of what MM suggests and that is the players will select the team, and imo Hampson and Kreuzer have shown more imo in the preseason.

Who knows, MM might be looking for a dominant tap ruckman and let others make up for this shorfalls; despite Hampson and Kreuzer showing more in other areas.

I admire what Warnock showed in the WCE final in 2011 as a lone hand. Yep, he;s shown some strong signs against Adelaide too...but we can't dismiss that the other 2 have shown a lot if bot more.

Who knows till round 1?

I reckon its 50/50

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:13 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Have a look at the 2nd qtr vs Adelaide again.


I know and agree. Personally if I had one ruckman it would be Warnock. People really underestimate his value.nif we have two I would have Hampson. His marking, agility amd the way he hits packs makes him a better option.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:17 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Have a look at the 2nd qtr vs Adelaide again.



..and have a look at the last.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:37 am 
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I'm not sold on Richmond like most people appear to be. They haven't addressed the key areas of weakness, an over reliance on Cotchin and Reiwoldt.

We also finally have a full defensive unit to play against Richmond, in fact we will have our best team assembled against Richmond since 2001.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:53 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Have a look at the 2nd qtr vs Adelaide again.

The problem is I have to look at the first quarter before I get to the second quarter.
If we replaced Warnock with a witches hat in the first quarter I would not have noticed the difference.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:37 pm 
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..Knockers plays like a tall reed, and if the main ruck is carrying the majority of the workload they need to be a ruck with some physical presence, and Knockers has a whole load of nada.. ..this was meant to be his best preseason yet, dominating training and intraclubs blah blah blah.. ..but against proper opposition he didn't perform, not nearly enough.. ..and some decent work in the 2nd Q wasn't enough to outweigh the crap he dished up for the rest of his playing time..

..is he still suffering from that knock on the knee..?.. ..when he was subbed in vs dickers the previous week, he had the knee heavily strapped up.. ..cos if he's fully fit, he hasn't shown enough to dislodge Krooz.. ..and he can't play the relief ruck/deep fwd role like Hammer can.. ..frankly, Knocker's only chance is to claim first ruck for his own.. ..and even if he did manage it [doubtful over a fit Krooz], he won't hold it for long until he breaks down..

..also, the salty Malty loves the Krooz, and has said that he's one of a very, very few players at the club that doesn't need to prove himself.. ..which speaks volumes..

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:08 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Have a look at the 2nd qtr vs Adelaide again.



Yep.
I've watched the second quarter again and it ends the same way it did last time. :razz:
Carlton dominated the clearances when Kruezer went into the ruck.

I'm sure you're seeing something in Warnocks game and I'd be happy for you to point it out.
In the first quarter we were slaughtered in the clearances when he was in the ruck and overall, he had a poor game IMO.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:24 pm 
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I say this every year, but I'm worried about this one. The Tigers owe us, well overdue for a win against us and we're adapting to a new game-plan under a new coach. No Scotland is a big loss...usually tears them apart.

By Christ I hope I'm wrong. It could be the most feral we ever see the Tigers fans if they win.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:12 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
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Psych I know you have had the belief that he'll go with one ruckman but that is simply incorrect.



The fact that anyone believes they know what Mick Malthouses thinking is fanciful.

FWIW, my team for R1.

Laidler Jamison Tuohy
Yarran Henderson Duigan
Garlett Gibbs Lucas
Simmo Casboult Armfield (Defensive forward)
Betts Hampson Walker

Kruezer Judd Murphy

I/C Carrazzo (c) Robbo McLean White

Spot on


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:19 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
Have a look at the 2nd qtr vs Adelaide again.



..and have a look at the last.

and Warnock would have given his all knowing he was off at half time. If we're trying to get into MMs head then think Jolly, and on that basis it's Hampson for mine as he does more around the ground especially resting forward pocket


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