No doubt Carlton tanked just like Melbourne did. They also mentioned the round 22 game in 2007 between Richmond and StKilda which was the worst example of tanking i have seen by one team.

The thing is the teams that have tanked havent been successful since.

It breeds a bad culture within the club.
Look at the Swans
Only 2 top ten picks in that premiership team last year. This team gives you everything when they play.

Carlton's culture has been ordinary over the last decade.
You guys can have a crack at Libba and yes he was a bitter man and its one of the reasons he gave that interview.
You can have a go at Hutchy for being a knob
Have a go at the show

Fact is we tanked in round 22. Travis Johnstone was allowed to do what he wanted and Ratten didnt do anything about it.
Ironic isnt that had he put a tagger on him we may have Trent Cotchin running around for us.

Seriously when I read some of you guys and the rubbish you write deflecting the truth by attacking other people I think you guys dont get it.


Face it. There is enough evidence to conclude that in some games if you went to some games five years ago you went to support your team that didnt want to win.
Just another example of how shit this club has been over the last 10 years.

And some of the players behind the scenes are still there

The entire tanking debacle can be put down as the result of one thing.

Andrew Demetriou's ego.

Had he not being so arrogant in insisting this wasn't happening, the league wouldn't be in this mess.

What needed to happen is he and the AFL simply say

"The AFL acknowledge that the Priority Pick methodology had its flaws and that as a result, there existed an incentive for clubs to seek to influence that outcome. We will therefore be reviewing the system with a view to taking out that incentive. We acknowledge there has been allegations about certain clubs. Given the admitted shortcomings of the system, we believe it would be unfair to punish any particular club and so there will be no investigations."

That's leadership. Issue is done and dusted.

I don't think anyone's denying our behaviour during those years (and I agree with you on the tanking/culture thing...I see our lapses in concentration and "Let Juddy do it" attitude as a leftover of this). Hell, many openly cried out for it. I remember full-well the attitute on quite a few on TC prior to the Kruezer Cup. "Yeah, our culture's going to improve SO much by beating Melbourne lol".

But what gets people's goats around here is the reporting that shows us as public enemy #1. We're THE salary cap cheats. We're THE tankers. "Only Carlton cheats" isn't just a slogan, it's a way of life.

one of Libba's comments about dropping Thornton to play an skinny rookie named Michael Jamison turned out to be a masterstroke coaching move..

The thing is the teams that have tanked havent been successful since.

It breeds a bad culture within the club.

I haven't been banned for a while, but I'd be getting mighty close if I said what I thought.

Anyway,

I didn't realise we were an awesome team back then that could decide when we can win or lose.

Prove we tanked, go on, prove it, because letting some hack that went to Brisbane and did nothin' proves nothing.

The club were blasted if they won and blasted if they lost. I hated that time frame, but you know what? It wasn't Carlton's fault, it was the AFL with their stupid incentive. Everyone used it that had the opportunity, call it tanking, list management, putting players in for surgery - whatever you like..........heaps did it, so don't !@#$%& HAVE A GO AT MY CLUB WITHOUT ANY REAL PROOF.

WE WERE SHIT
WE LOST GAMES
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS TO SHIT TEAMS

The entire tanking debacle can be put down as the result of one thing.

Andrew Demetriou's ego.

Had he not being so arrogant in insisting this wasn't happening, the league wouldn't be in this mess.

What needed to happen is he and the AFL simply say

"The AFL acknowledge that the Priority Pick methodology had its flaws and that as a result, there existed an incentive for clubs to seek to influence that outcome. We will therefore be reviewing the system with a view to taking out that incentive. We acknowledge there has been allegations about certain clubs. Given the admitted shortcomings of the system, we believe it would be unfair to punish any particular club and so there will be no investigations."

That's leadership. Issue is done and dusted.

I haven't been banned for a while, but I'd be getting mighty close if I said what I thought.

Anyway,

I didn't realise we were an awesome team back then that could decide when we can win or lose.

Prove we tanked, go on, prove it, because letting some hack that went to Brisbane and did nothin' proves nothing.

The club were blasted if they won and blasted if they lost. I hated that time frame, but you know what? It wasn't Carlton's fault, it was the AFL with their stupid incentive. Everyone used it that had the opportunity, call it tanking, list management, putting players in for surgery - whatever you like..........heaps did it, so don't !@#$%& HAVE A GO AT MY CLUB WITHOUT ANY REAL PROOF.

WE WERE SHIT
WE LOST GAMES
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS TO SHIT TEAMS

You might have a different opinion to me but as a supporter that night I was asking myself why was this guy allowed to do what he liked. What was the motivation to not put the squeeze on him.

No doubt Carlton tanked just like Melbourne did. They also mentioned the round 22 game in 2007 between Richmond and StKilda which was the worst example of tanking i have seen by one team.

The thing is the teams that have tanked havent been successful since.

It breeds a bad culture within the club.
Look at the Swans
Only 2 top ten picks in that premiership team last year. This team gives you everything when they play.

Carlton's culture has been ordinary over the last decade.
You guys can have a crack at Libba and yes he was a bitter man and its one of the reasons he gave that interview.
You can have a go at Hutchy for being a knob
Have a go at the show

Fact is we tanked in round 22. Travis Johnstone was allowed to do what he wanted and Ratten didnt do anything about it.
Ironic isnt that had he put a tagger on him we may have Trent Cotchin running around for us.

Seriously when I read some of you guys and the rubbish you write deflecting the truth by attacking other people I think you guys dont get it.


Face it. There is enough evidence to conclude that in some games if you went to some games five years ago you went to support your team that didnt want to win.
Just another example of how shit this club has been over the last 10 years.

And some of the players behind the scenes are still there

people are quick to hand it out to Libba
fact is he told Ratten that night at quarter time that Johnstone should be manned up. That was obvious yet Ratten as head coach did nothing about it. The fact that an assistant coach pointed out to the senior coach who has the final say that something should be done and he was ignored begs the question was something corrupt going on