If Warnock plays Hampson won't. Surely not. We saw how crap it was playing all 3 rucks last year. Knew it wouldn't work. You're surely going to play a true forward at FF, not a bloody ruckman, who has no clue how to play the position. We saw how having Casboult at FF straightened us right up going forward compared to a ruckman there. We actually went best when Kreuzer was able to ruck near all day with cameo rucking from Casboult. Kreuzer doesn't actually go that well forward so if he doesn't have to spend 40-50% of the game there then it suits his game to ruck nearly all the time. MM's shown he likes the one ruck, one pinch hit type. Worked for the Pies, seemed to work best for us, why go away from it.

Waite and Garlett are entire different types. Both can play HFF. You don't want the same types of HFF'ers. Waite plays a midfield role well so with his marking that HFF type of position would suit him, as it does for Walker. Gartlett's the other type, a crumbing type. Might even go with Waite at FF and Casboult in a pocket so the latter can play forward, like Leigh Brown, then have the odd run in the ruck.

MM does like the idea of using Watson. He's had alot of success with young tall defenders. If that's the case Henderson would play forward, probably with Waite and Casboult in the way I mentioned above. If Henderson plays back then we'll play 2 ruckmen, with Waite and Casboult in the KP.

I'm only saying what Robert Wiley seems to be saying., basically that the three talls can play in the same team and Henderson will probably play back. Waite and Casboult at FF and FP is likely but imo Garlett is a walk up start.
W will have to agree to disagree about Hampson not being able to play as a forward. We've clashed over this before and I thought he was going well until he was injured.
In any event, it's all only opinions and a way to fill in a quiet time in the press and footy in general.

MM's shown he likes the one ruck, one pinch hit type. Worked for the Pies, seemed to work best for us, why go away from it.

I understand that Warnock is heavily favoured to start next year.
Still some way to go of course, but the team is being built and the game-plan is very accommodating of Warnock.

Expect some surprises when things really get going as just about everyone is starting off a blank sheet.
White is the one that's been heavily spoken about but don't be surprised should players O'Keeffe and even Collins start pushing hard.

Perhaps Collingwood didnt have 2 ruckmen deserving of a game which is just as likely? The Pies drafted/traded in plenty of ruckmen so perhaps its the inability of those players to step up instead of an aversity to play 2 ruckmen.

I really believe we could mould and develop Kruezer into a CHF. He has the mobility, athletisicm and marking capacity, just needs to learn the position. I am still of the opinion that with Kruezer (CHF), Hampson (FP) and Waite (FF) we have the gun power now. All they need to do is work together and learn to play the positions. Hampson and Waite certaintly have shown they can do the roles outlined above. Kruezer is the missing link, else Rowe, Casboult, Henderson or even Mitchell could push for the CHF/FF role.

The positive is Malthouse has plenty of options and with (fingers crossed) a better injury run, no excuses!

I really believe we could mould and develop Kruezer into a CHF. He has the mobility, athletisicm and marking capacity, just needs to learn the position. I am still of the opinion that with Kruezer (CHF), Hampson (FP) and Waite (FF) we have the gun power now. All they need to do is work together and learn to play the positions. Hampson and Waite certaintly have shown they can do the roles outlined above. Kruezer is the missing link, else Rowe, Casboult, Henderson or even Mitchell could push for the CHF/FF role.

The positive is Malthouse has plenty of options and with (fingers crossed) a better injury run, no excuses!

Why would be set out to develop Kreuzer into a CHF when we already have one in Henderson?

Kreuzer is not a lead up-the-ground forward and that has been noted three years ago.

Noted by who? By MM?
Why is a lead up important? What is our game plan?

What we do know is that K has talent and size......and we should be prepared that a new set of eyes and experience may leverage these assets a little differently. Or perhaps we would like more of the same

I thought the same 3-4 years ago and Kreuzer was being built up for a forward role but that experiment was tabled away as a failure.

Kreuzer knows himself not to be a forward and unless panic stations are called for, he won't be played as a stay-at-home forward, let alone a CHF.

I thought the same 3-4 years ago and Kreuzer was being built up for a forward role but that experiment was tabled away as a failure.

Kreuzer knows himself not to be a forward and unless panic stations are called for, he won't be played as a stay-at-home forward, let alone a CHF.

Yep, ruckman and ruckman only, and he has a fight on his hands to be No.1. Personally I really want all three ruckman up and running and pushing each other for that spot.

Kruezer doesn't have the positioning smarts to be a forward. Can pinch hit there but that's it.

We have Henderson, Rowe, Waite, Casboult & Mitchell who are more natural forwards. Let them fight out those positions.

..waite is our best option as our main fwd, the issue is he doesn't play enough games consecutively for us to build a fwd line around him.. ..when hes fit fantastic, but we need to be building for his absence.. ..i agree that krooz is at his best as the main ruckman, and i believe that when fully fit is a league ahead of either hammer or knockers.. .he's very dangerous up fwd when he's rucking and pushing fwd on his opposite ruck.. ..less so as a kpf vs a kpd.. ..hammer plays very well as a tall resting ruck fp, sheer size and good goal kicking accuracy will see him hit the scoreboard regularly, especially when we play 2 kpf's to be the main targets.. ..hammer as a 2nd ruck plays very well.. ..i think knockers is very 1 dimensional, good tap ruckman but not better enough over krooz or hammer, and hammer can play fwd, krooz is an excellant follower, knockers doesnt have much after the tapout.. ..he needs to develope more to his game, or increase his durability to ever hold down the number one ruck longterm, too much good competition for him with us..

..hendo is our best chf option.. ..has the experience now, body thru enough pre-seasons, great work ethic and natural chf smarts.. ..how quickly watson comes on, and also like if levi leaps fwd as a chf option [his natural game], i think where hendo plays will revolve more around the team needs..

This. He will be the 'swingman' depending on the opposition and injuries.