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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:12 pm 
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I am so angry about this, why are we always the ones who get dudded?
That little puppet, AA, is a waste of space.
How unprofessional to not even advise the club as to why they changed the goal posts and to inform the club after they had re-signed players for new contracts.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:00 pm 
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I think this was inevitable and a good thing, except for the poor person who has to be delisted for next year so we can meet the cap.

The contract has done it's job. We enticed Judd over, had the initial deal improved, and hastened our return to credibility. All good, ok. It was inevitable that it would get additional scrutiny at some stage.

As others have said it looks like Carlton had briefed the AFL well so no issues for us. As other clubs stretched the rules it was bound to get brought back in somehow.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:18 pm 
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I give Adrian Anderson till Christmas when an announcement will be made that he's moving onto greater opportunity.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:51 pm 
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AFL are a pack of hypocritical "k's".

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:21 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
AFL are a pack of hypocritical "k's".

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:32 pm 
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King Kenny wrote:
I give Adrian Anderson till Christmas when an announcement will be made that he's moving onto greater opportunity.

You really believe Anderson is a decision maker?....

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:42 pm 
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Wish Eddie McGuire was our president. He has a lot more influence over the AFL than our president.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:48 pm 
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kezza wrote:
I am so angry about this, why are always the ones who get dudded?
That little puppet, AA, is a waste of space.
How unprofessional to not even advise the club as to why they changed the goal posts and to inform the club after they had re-signed players for new contracts.


:clap:

AGRO wrote:
AFL are a pack of hypocritical "k's".


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:53 pm 
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kezza wrote:
I am so angry about this, why are always the ones who get dudded?
That little puppet, AA, is a waste of space.
How unprofessional to not even advise the club as to why they changed the goal posts and to inform the club after they had re-signed players for new contracts.



10 years after the AFL said they went easy on us and the AFL have found away to stick it right up us again this is absolutely out flowering rageous.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:07 pm 
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Query over Selwood deal


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/q ... 29hpt.html

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:16 pm 
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chubbyruss wrote:


Can anyone confirm if Judd still had a year to run on the existing Vist 3rd Oarty deal. Caroline Wilsons article says that AA terminated the agreement on short (no) notice with a year left to run.

Earlier pusters on TC were of the opinion that the deal still had a year to run but then other posters said it had expired and Carlton had asked for a renewal. Either way it is shoddy treatment by AFL to say the least.

Unfortuneately I can see a court battle looming with Judd and Tippett (and numerous others) on the same side v the AFL.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:24 pm 
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
Pafloyul wrote:
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Helps explain the inactivity in trade week...250k would be a couple of % points on the TPP. When its mandatory you have to pay 96% of the cap doesn't leave a lot of wriggle room.

Maybe we'll see some retractions from the sky is falling group of nellies on this site......



If the sky did fall, I bet you'd still be wearing a big s***-eating grin.

Nah, Paf, it's just a great example for people on this site about stuff that we supporters have no idea about and forming ridiculous opinions minus key information.

Chicken littles is what they are...



Why prompt it? Are you talking about those that think Carlton's list management is crap or those that blame everything on the AFL? Anyway, we still have to make sure we are not going to be over the TPP. I don't give a stuff what the AFL does as long as we have our own crap sorted. That's all we can do.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:45 pm 
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I believe we should challenge the decision in court and then sue them for damages as they nearly sent us into liquidation with their last decision!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:01 pm 
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Yazzamatazz wrote:
I believe we should challenge the decision in court and then sue them for damages as they nearly sent us into liquidation with their last decision!


That would be Judd's choice, not the clubs if we have no involvement in the arrangement.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:31 pm 
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King Kenny wrote:
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I believe we should challenge the decision in court and then sue them for damages as they nearly sent us into liquidation with their last decision!


That would be Judd's choice, not the clubs if we have no involvement in the arrangement.



How is it even possible we have no involvement in the arrangement? It's in our best interests and will affect our pay structures/plans/budgets....

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:44 pm 
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Are registered AFL listed players allowed to be paid remuneration for work undertaken outside of their employment by and an AFL club?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:37 pm 
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mots wrote:
Are registered AFL listed players allowed to be paid remuneration for work undertaken outside of their employment by and an AFL club?

This is the $64 question. I am not sure but i think players have to sign an agreement when they first get drafted.
If anyone took this to court they would surely win as it is a restraint of trade, which is why i thought the AFL allowed these deals to begin with to prevent any court action.
Paul Connors was very angry this morning and wont take this lying down. It is so unfair that our club pays the price for a private deal between Visy and Judd.
My work place cant stop me from taking on a second job so dont see why the AFL can.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:38 pm 
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sure as shit havent heard the last of this

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:43 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
King Kenny wrote:
I give Adrian Anderson till Christmas when an announcement will be made that he's moving onto greater opportunity.

You really believe Anderson is a decision maker?....


As a department head he should be, otherwise why employ him?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:44 pm 
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Yazzamatazz wrote:
King Kenny wrote:
Yazzamatazz wrote:
I believe we should challenge the decision in court and then sue them for damages as they nearly sent us into liquidation with their last decision!


That would be Judd's choice, not the clubs if we have no involvement in the arrangement.



How is it even possible we have no involvement in the arrangement? It's in our best interests and will affect our pay structures/plans/budgets....


Are we part of the commercial contract or simply a broker to the third party agreement?


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