What would you have done, given the position of our list? What moves would you have tried to make that would genuinely have improved the list? Of the available talent out there, who did we really miss out on that we could realistically have got? Someone like Caddy would have been nice but we would have had to give up Pick 11 to get him, something about which you no doubt would have complained. We could have traded Warnock, that might have got us enough second round pick. Other than that?

All you ever do is talk in abstruse recruiting theories without ever offering names or any real substance or specifics. Tell us what you would have done.

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Apart from Goddard who arguably is getting on a bit, costs too much and not really what we need... there's not one traded player I 'regret' not pursuing.

Hindsight may prove me wrong at a later date but I'm quite content at not being overly active in this trade period. Was hoping to get a first or second rounder for Warnock but also happy we didn't just give him away.

I think we have a decent list and believe we'll see it nurtured with a more defensively minded game plan.

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That's all you needed to say. We butchered our list management to the point where it was impossible to get involved even if we did want to.

I haven't seen too many on the site pushing to trade for trading's sake. Just a lot of frustration that we hand cuffed ourselves to essentially the same group for two years running.

Yep. No cap room and 4 players contracted for next year that we'd like to delist if we had the chance.

Not great list management.

Would expect some movement next year however.

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Now the trade period is over and nothing happened Im looking forward to seeing MM develop our kids and improve what we have in 2013.

Kids like Bootsma, Buckley, Dale, Lucas, OKeefe, Watson, McCarthy, Mitchell, Davies, Bell getting game time and showing their worth.

Players such as Gibbs, Yarran, Garlett, Laidler, Henderson, Waite, Walker, Warnock, Jamison being fit and/or playing to their ability on a consistent basis.

Add to that three kids like Stringer, Colquhoun & McBean and we still look pretty good.

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For mine the moves I liked best were the cashing in of Collingwood for some more highish draft picks, but also the deals for very little to secure the zone players from GWS that Port and Hawks did

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The replay of the round 3 game against Collingwood is on foxtel now. Amazing how much better the side was when we had almost a full strength side and players such as Laidler, Henderson and Waite fit and firing.
Hopefully we can have a better run with injuries next season and if Rogers can get our draft picks right we should have a better season.
MM will have a year to get a better look at our players and i expect us to be pretty active next trade period.

I'd say it's more likely that the team were doing so well because the less motivated of our group were enjoying playing a lot more as our stars were getting the job done, making their own jobs easier and giving them more confidence in the process. Injuries are one reason for our slide this year, another equally (I would say more) important reason was lazy players not willing to put in the hard work when times weren't so good and they needed to dig deep. What we saw against Collingwood in round 3 was these guys riding a wave.

Remember, a very similar team lost to Gold Coast later in the year.

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List ages @ the end of next year is looking like this:
<21 = (10) 7 + 3 likely to come in via the draft
Bootsma, Watson, McCarthy, McInnes, Mitchell, Dale, Buckley
<23 = 6 (+1 re: Mitch Carter if not delisted)
Yarran, Davies, Lucas, O'Keeffe, Casboult, Bell
<25 = 13
Hampson, Ellard, Tuohy, Garlett, Henderson, Collins, Curnow, Robinson, Laidler, Kreuzer, Joseph, Gibbs, White
<27 = 8
Rowe, Betts, Armfield, Jamison, McLean, Warnock, Murphy, Walker
<29 = 2
- Duigan, Simpson
30+ = 4
- Scotland, Waite, Judd, Carrazzo

Good sign that the younger ones have all had a taste of AFL footy bar Buckley.

Interesting how CFC see the list moving forward with a lot of middle tier players (>25) in the line for delisting, some >27's that battle to stay on the park and a retirement (Scotland) + older player queries or 2 with their place in the team (Duigan)/fitness (Waite, though he'll have an extra year on his contract to run).
Our under 23's are mixed bag mostly of rookies but hopefully with some upside but none are regular players except for Yazz.
Our under 25's need to regular fixtures in the team however lot of names on here feature as regular "depth" players.

except for injuries next year is a watershed year.
Our inactivity means we think the list is ok.
If certain big names cant peform in 2013 then they should be traded for the best draft picks we can get for them
and we start the rebuilding process.

I can understand the inactivity to some degree.

I agree with the other posters that this trade period is seriously overrated.
the facts are that most players traded arnt that good. Just average footballers. Yeah you can get some success stories like the 7 Swans guys who came from other clubs but
Have a look at the pies for example

Lynch looks like tarzan plays like Jane over 30 can kick it it a mile and occasionally take a pack mark but moves like a glacier on tranquilisers
in short shit
Young soft as a marshmellow injury prone. Kicks it a mile but a receiver. We have got enough of them at Carlton. His piss weak act that allowed Jack to kick that goal in the last quarter of the GF sealed his fate.
in short shit
Jordan Russell no explanantion
in short shit

Look at the Swans this year. Yes they are great at recycling players not wanted but if you look closely its pretty all about drafting properly.
15 of the premiership 22 were from the national draft as youngsters.


I guess what I am saying is if some of our big name players peform next year as they did this year then I would be looking for a trade for draft picks and starting to build our list from scratch
eg Gibbs to PA for picks 7 and 30

IMO we havent got the cattle to top our list up with recycled players who can have a second wind at another club.

If we arnt successful next year( we must win one final to be a success IMO)
then I believe we need to start from scratch and take a different view of our future.

pragmatic and rational lets give it a crack this year with a new coach.....if guys like gibbs etc don't scrub up....trade very aggressively

Bootsma, Buckley and Dale all born in 1993, meaning they'd be 20 at December 31st 2013.

Bell, Davies and Lucas all born in 1991, meaning they'd be 22 at December 31st 2013.

Gibbs, Ellard, Tuohy, Henderson, Curnow, Laidler, Kruezer, Joseph, Robinson and Garlett all born in 1989, meaning they'd be 24 at December 31st 2013.

Rowe, Warnock and Murphy all born in 1987, meaning they'd be 26 at December 31st 2013.

22/40.

Barely a pass mark.

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What if I hit the right button <. More compelling reading.

Then you'd be 18/40

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WC's work is underrated and better than Collingwood's effort. Not a massive Wellingham fan, but you can see him burning it up at home and complementing their inside mids. Ditto Cripps who could give them more run and carry along with Sheppard and Murray Newman.

Pick 44 for a surplus mid in Stevens was a win.

Morton cost them nothing, but if he can harden up a bit, he could realise his talent at a club who will be harder on him. Look at Josh Hill who was traded for next to nothing a year before they delisted Sherman. Worth a shot when he's shown more than Oakley-Nicholls who they rookied.

Held firm on Brown to get a trade that could have paid off for them. Had a win after they missed out on Hooker, but still got Cripps from that idiot Watters.

Pick 62 for Quinten Lynch is tidy work.

Upgraded Brad Dick who can play

They can win the flag with these players adding to their depth and moving into their best 35 players.

Certainly was an exciting team that ran out that night. If we play like that every week we'd be top 4 without a doubt.

We need Warnock because Kreuzer and Hampson are susceptible to injury

We need Kreuzer because Warnock and Hampson are susceptible to injury

We need Hampson because Kreuzer and Warnock are susceptible to injury

'twas the best team Ratt's had fielded in his 100 games was in the commentary.

And we need Casboult because Kreuzer, Warnock, and Hampson are susceptible to injury.

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It was the same as when Sammy Jacobs was with us. They were all susceptible to injury.
I just hope its not a Carlton Curse and moreso we have grown out of it....the young bodies that is.

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