I only managed to attend one game this year living overseas with my AFL membership ... round 23. It was a shit ugly spectacle from 2 teams who turned up with no apparent desire (except from a few lesser rated workhorses with the right attitude) to play committed football, and the result was they delivered shit football. e.g Walker/Milne bullshit all game to name the most obvious ugly performers. Hardly noticed a whimper from the "stars" of either team except Judd, who unfortunately limped off after overcommitting.

My observation of the Blues all year is that there was a shit attitude and shit discipline. The public perception from TV telecasts was that glaring on-field lack of discipline went unremarked by the coaching group. Have no idea about whether there was any behind the scenes action taken regarding poor discipline.

The one thing I have confidence in is that there will be some kind of team discipline under Malthouse.

Not sure about whole of club culture, but get the impression it is weak. If it was stronger we would probably have a better President.

I do know that "F^&k the Rest" is not the club culture we need to be successful.

I posted this in the Scotland thread, but no one seemed inclined to respond.

What penalty should Scotland get for his misdemeanour? The question I put was what would Geelong or Sydney do with a player in similar circumstances?

I think that a suspension is in order, and more than 1 or 2 games. Perhaps 4. If we want to create an outstanding culture at this Club, then we must be very hard on players if they stuff up. Even if it has the potential to hurt us on the field.

For comparison, Geelong suspended Johnson for 5 matches for being arrested for public drunkenness, and that charge was later dropped. Johnson of course had priors, as does Scotland. Curious to hear what others on here think.

I posted this in the Scotland thread, but no one seemed inclined to respond.

What penalty should Scotland get for his misdemeanour? The question I put was what would Geelong or Sydney do with a player in similar circumstances?

I think that a suspension is in order, and more than 1 or 2 games. Perhaps 4. If we want to create an outstanding culture at this Club, then we must be very hard on players if they stuff up. Even if it has the potential to hurt us on the field.

For comparison, Geelong suspended Johnson for 5 matches for being arrested for public drunkenness, and that charge was later dropped. Johnson of course had priors, as does Scotland. Curious to hear what others on here think.

..miss the first month, if he's in leadership group dump him..

Added Walsh: ''What I do know is our discipline, our attitude - if that's linked to culture, it is something we would feel needs to improve if we are going to be around in the last week of September.''

Wilson is a bitch. Any chance she gets she rips into malthouse and Carlton. Now that we have teamed up expect the vitriol to triple. These last few days are just the beginning.

There is a lot being said in that article that is not being directly said.

I've never been on the thrash wilson bandwagon but she's starting to get on my nerves.

She is clearly trying to put malthouse down in those earlier paragraphs, and by extension Carlton. There is a very strong undercurrent there.

Yes, in The Age today. I posted this in the Scotland thread, but worth putting it here too...



http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/m ... 27iiu.html

So it wont be the coaches fault next year for shit, gutless peformances from some of our players which is what the club basically said by sacking Ratten.

Frankly I am just about over some of our players and will be very interested in how they peform under MM.

Essendon* cheated, simple as that

Riiiiight.
Shit performances 2012 = coaches fault.
Shit performances 2013 = not the coaches fault.
Is that it?