We have the bare minimum involvement in the draft and even less involvement in the rookie draft because of our mismanagement!

Come Rd1, 2013 we will have just 3 players (excluding the upcoming draft) on our main list under the age of 21!

Franklin missed 7 games, Hodge missed even more...
Goodes missed a heap as well!

These are 2 ridiculous statements.

We are only having 1 rookie pick due to two reasons:
1. The rules changed so that you can only have 4 Category A rookies (down from 8 last year)
2. We've been so good at picking rookies that we have to keep 3 on the list, after elevating 3.

Why use such a selective categorisation of age?
We will have 6 players under the age of 21, as well as 3 who would have just turned 21.
We finally have a good spread, age-wise, through the list. Something that we have been after for a decade.

At the start of this season, we had the 5th youngest list in the competition. That's including the Gold Coast and GWS.
Youth isn't an issue with our list.

MM went to the first day of the trade period.
Doesn't matter where he is now, as we are not doing any trades.

um, what if another team approached us with a deal?

I guess November 1 is getting closer.

How do you know?
We've sacked a coach and 2 assistants. Moved another assistant into a completely different role. Appointed Rob Wiley into a newly created position to focus on development.
Also this year appointed a new head of recruiting.

Win lose or draw next season, after that things will begin to look a bit queasy. You need to have the talent coming through to remain healthy, we just don't have a history of acknowledging that. The 1995 premiership, for example, was an oasis in an otherwise downward spiral of an ageing list. I wouldn't let the idea that we had the fifth youngest list in the competition this year fool us, that can and does change very quickly and there is more to it than simply working out averages. It's not as if we'll be in the position to inject much quality youth into the side next year, either.

Stamos, it's great to remain positive and Malthouse should prove a good get in the short term but we all know there is more to it than that.

He has no choice Don, we're unable to change our list.

There are three ways to alter your list:

free agency
trades
draft

We have no flexibility to do either of the the first two because of diabolical list management, primarily by Ratts, and in the last 12 months aided by Andy M (i.e. prematurely signing up players... there wasn't going to be clubs chasing Davies, Joseph etc)

We kept Russell, Bower, Thornton when it was clear they were finished at Carlton; therefore, we missed out on the opportunity to draft Murdoch, Paine (who will one way or another be replacing Dawes) etc..... great to see we aren't repeating the same mistakes

We have the bare minimum involvement in the draft and even less involvement in the rookie draft because of our mismanagement!

Come Rd1, 2013 we will have just 3 players (excluding the upcoming draft) on our main list under the age of 21!

According to Ratts, this was at least a top 4 list..... meanwhile the teams that finished above us amazingly have the flexibility and ability to retool and improve through a combination of the three methods listed above

Another reason we have limited spots on our list is because we have upgraded 3 rookies, Bolt, Zac and Curnow.

should of kept curnow as a rookie

It's clear that the list has been poorly managed.

Icke, McKay, Swann and Ratten are responsible. 2 are gone and McKay has had 1 season.

Swann oversaw the whole period, and we know he's a CEO who loves managing the footy side of things.

We have a non-finals team with no spots available on the list and no cap space. Fustercluck.