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Bower officially delisted

Also, according to McKay, we will be using 3 picks in the draft, and won't be taking any other players unless we are offered a player-player trade, which seems unlikely.

And only 1 in the rookie draft wasn't it?
The way I see it we have 36 on senior list (Casboult & Touhy in - minus, Russell, Bower, T-Bird, Kerr) should give us 4 unless someone else has been upgraded with the supposed new 40 man list...
Which means we'll only have 6 rookies this year (Bell, Dale, Curnow, O'Keeffe & Carter + 1)?

My best estimate would be that Curnow has been elevated (probably signed a deal similar to Bell last year).

And it seems that you can now only have 4 'Category A' (read: normal) rookies from now on, and we've already got Bell, O'Keefe and Dale.

Carter has been delisted.

The rule is actually that you can only retain 3 first year rookies at a time, and one second year rookie. So yes, the full compliment is 4 in terms of registered footballers.

Internationals operate off that list technically, with a maximum of two per year and a three year contract. Non-registered footballers I think count against the last, but are simply added at a list lodgement rather than drafted.

The exact details are quite hazy on all of this because the rules do change (often without announcement) and the records of these are not shown publicly for digestion. Must be some sort of book handed out to agents and clubs.

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Good news about McLean and Bell, seems we were right about the list being tight. I wonder what will happen with Bell and being able to play seniors. McKay was on trade radio and said he could be a nominated rookie, i am confused about this as i thought we had 2 veterans. Is it possible that we only include one veteran and use the other spot for a nominated rookie.
Good luck to Bower.

Given that we had 6 of these spots last year, and have elevated 3 (Tuohy, Curnow, Casboult) and delisted 1 (Carter, not to mention Bray and Lodge), that would allow us more than 1 rookie pick, which is what McKay stated we have

Lists change this year from 38+2 to 40, regardless of Veterans (of which we have 2 next year, Simmo and Waite).
I was under the impression that due to the list increase, there would be no nominated rookies, however it seems that this is not right.
We can only take McKay's word for it. It is impossible to find any info on the AFL site.

Stamos it seems we are all a little confused about the rules for veterans/nominated rookies. In the past clubs could only have nominated rookies if they had no veterans. Now it seems the lists have been extended AND clubs can have both veterans and nominated rookies. Doesnt make much sense having nominated rookies then if they can just play without being elevated during the season, why have them at all and just include them on the senior list. I assume that Mckay knows what he is talking about, ( will i hope he does ).
Just seems a bit strange.
Anyway, really good news about Bell staying.

Playing for their careers in 2013:
Curnow
Joseph
Ellard
White
Davies (unsure on contract status but thought it was til 2012)
Lucas
And question marks on Mitchell and McCarthy.
It appears Curnow has not been elevated. I have my doubts on him.

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Agree with that list prob add Collins & Duigan as well as rookies O'Keeffe & Carter.
Duigan is unfortunate as he had limited continuity this season.
Collins needs to improve efficiency ten fold, for a bloke considered to have good skills he butchers alot. Has the smarts,
O'Keeffe ive been a fan of from day dot but if he doesn play much this coming season hes gone.

Big name players needing to step up to avoid being CONSIDERED for trade in 2013: Gibbs, Walks, Kreuz, Hammer, Warnock, Waite, Garlett & Jamo.
Gibbs,Kreuz & warnock are in same boat. All tipped to make big improvements every year, each have mass hype but continually fail to meet expectations of themselves, coaches, team mates and fans.
Walks, Garlett & Jamo are in similar boat. All had break out 2011 season and mediocre 2012. Walks unfortunately was shifted round from pillar to post and didnt get much time up fwd where he flourished the year previous. But Jamo & Garlett lost their mojo's. Garlett had zero confidence from set shots and Jamo continuously give away silly frees and was found out positioned continuously. Went from AA early 2011 to VFL material.
Hammer needs to show everyone what the coaches see in him, alot of faith and time put into this bloke. He needs to progress or move on.
Waite needs to stay on the park basically. For 5 years hes been injured half the time basically, suspended for another percentage on top of that. Stay fit and no brain fades.

I'd hazard to guess that Davies, Ellard, Joseph and Collins would have all gone close to getting delisted if they were not contracted for next year.

Assuming its 3 draft picks plus promoting Curnow, Tuohy and Casboult

Kerr, Thornton, Bower, Russell gone

List increases from 38 to 40.

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Not a lot of Love for Davies the poor bugger has been injured for the best part of a year
Lucas has been available for most of the same time and shown less

Im callling it now Davies will end up a 150 game plus player for Carlton

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Hammer was playing great??? People have short memories. Swans ribs made out of steel or something

Hope so.
I actually reckon he showed a bit in his 2 games this year, especially for a player who was so underdone.

Yep beaten by Judd, Murphy and Carrazzo... perhaps its a reflection on the amount of time spent in the centre square and at stoppages compared to the rest of the list (Brock played 1 more game than Carrazzo). Brock's averages were inflated by his huge numbers in the St.Kilda game (by .5). The other three also have other facets to their game... Tom Bell spent less time in the centre square and yet almost had the same clearance ave as Brock... not bad for a rookie!!

How often was Mitch in the centre square/playing in the midfield? A bit difficult when he spent a considerable amount of time as a defensive forward!!

Good research on your behalf

Yep, and that was a missed target

I bet you didn't notice that Brock's direct opponent got 2 Brownlow votes....

Assertions and baseless statements mean jack shite. Do you have any data on Brocks midfield time compared to anyone else?
Nah, didnt think so.
Brock spent plenty of his time parked on the half forward flank. Some of you just need to get over it. McLean had a fantastic second half of the season and deserves his contract extention fully.

And by the way, you dont need to play midfield to win contested possessions. And tell me, how does playing 1 more game than Carrazzo effect averages?

Nice try anyway.

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We have good advice that Carter has been cut already.

Duigan & Collins aren't completely safe just yet.
If some good deals come our way and we can't trade out other guys then they may just be in some trouble.

It will all depend on the quality of what may yet come our way.