Remember, he was playing as an overage player against kids a year younger. Also, many players have made the team of the year and some have even won the Morrish medal without being drafted.
I'm not saying Casboult wont make it but he wasnt drafted because his kicking action is extremely flawed.

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He played against St.Kilda?

First part of shooting for goal is, as a big KP forward, getting the thing in the first place to give yourself a chance. Not easy to find such KP forwards. The rest can be sorted, as it has been with others. Has landed a huge bombs outside 50 in the VFL but certainly shaky from 20.

Players around the fringes that we need to look at in trade period. See where their at, and if they have an upside and can fill a role and position we need filling ala Laidler.

In yellow is who I would target at the "right price"

Adelaide: Brown, Jaensch, Kerridge, McKernan
Brisbane: Cornelius
Collingwood: Rounds, Hartley, Goldsack
Essendon*: Dyson, Gumbleton, Pears, Prismall
Freo: Broughton, Van Berlo
Geelong: M.Brown, Simpson, Bathie, Walker
Suns: Caddy, Toy, Nicholls
GWS: Thompson, Kennedy, Tyson, Treloar
Hawthorn: Murphy, McCauley, Gilham, Boumann
Melbourne: Bail, Cook, Gysberts, Sylvia, Sheahan
North: Anthony, Pederson, Richardson
Power: Jacobs, Salopek, OShea
Richmond: Astbury, Post
St Kilda: Cripps, Ledger, Ross
Sydney: White, Seaby, Cunningham, Lamb
West Coast: Brown, Lycett, McInnes, Sheppard, Stevens
WB: Higgins, Williams, Campbell.

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Looking at that list, nobody really jumps out at me. I used to think Goldsack might be worth a look but I've gone off him a bit. I thought Salopek might amount to something but he hasn't kicked on. There was a lot of talk about Toy in his draft year. Caddy looks like he wants to go to Essendon* and if he doesn't I reckon we are at least third in the queue. White from Sydney I think has an upside but we do have a few similars coming through hopefully.

I think looking at Hawthorn, Geelong, Sydney and Collingwood fringe dwellers is going to be more productive because they have good llists and their fringe players would probably get a game at most other clubs. E.g. Laidler. Having said that, Sydney and Hawthorn have managed to trade really well and not always from good teams. The gems are out there, it's a matter of finding and polishing them.

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I think there is a bit there that could fit in and help us. The thing about coming from bottom sides sometimes players develop bad habits and don't get the best out of themselves. Look at Morton yesterday, had to go back and play 20 games at reserve level, kick 80 goals and prove to the playing group he had a defensive side to his game. Not a star but proved he can play a vital role.

I have highlighted in yellow who I think we can pick up fairly cheaply and fit into our list. Interesting to note that Sydney have turned over 33 players in the last three years!

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Turning over our shit players to pick up players that cant get a game at clubs shitter than us does not sound like a great idea

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Like Kennedy, McGlynn, Richards, Mumford, Morton, Johnson, Mattner, Shaw.

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Fair enough.

What, in your opinion should we look for in a recycled player Psych? The majority of them obviously don't get a run because they're not good enough but obviously there's always players like the ones you've listed above.

Personally I think we need a big bodied key forward that can create a presence and allow Casboult/Mitchell to develop and take the second or third defender. I also think we need more depth and size in the midfield. The ability to have Judd, Murphy, Simpson, Yarran, Gibbs, Lucas play "wide" of the contest will make a huge difference. Add 1-2 of Salopek, Caddy, Anthony, Prismall to McLean, Carrazzo, Robinson, Touhy & Bell and we have some genuine depth which you need over a long season.

It will be down to what Malthouse wants and what he thinks of our current players ability to carry out his game plan. I have no doubt that names such as Ellard, Joseph, Warnock, Hampson, Duigan, Bower, Garlett, Walker, Rowe, Collins will all be on table next month should the right deal come up.

Do we get Jesse White if we miss out on Lynch. IMO he is much bigger and a better forward and ruck man.

Cameron Pederson can fill that role as well. Has a great work rate. Brown and Walker are big forwards that cant get a game behind Hawkins, Vardy and Pods.

Salopek is a big bodied mid that may come cheap. Being back in Vic and under an astute coach may bring the best out in him.

Guys like Jacobs, Stevens, Sheppard & Gysberts are looking to leave and would add to midfield.

Im only offering names that may be worth looking at. A lot will depend upon how MM assesses our players. I believe he will look at turning over atleast 10 players and shaking the list up.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Yes, because Hawthorn, Collingwood, Geelong are clubs shitter than us...roll some more eyes dreamteamer

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The problem is our current player development program is really only good for turning a silk purse into a sow's ear.

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Touchy......

It has nothing to do with the standard of club. Its about the player and there role. That's why MM wants Lynch. Not a star but fits a role ala Leigh Brown.

Remember Hawthorn getting Dew for nothing? Its about improving the list, no point having 10 gun ruckman on a list is there?

As I said prior I believe there will be around 10 changes to our lists. Thornton, Bower, Russell, Ellard, Curnow, Warnock, Duigan, Garlett, Rowe, Collins, Kerr, Heyne, Joseph could all be gone by delisting or trades.

Add Touhy, Casboult, OKeefe to our list that leaves 7 places. Bell will stay as a rookie.

I would expect 3 places min. to go to recycled players such as Lynch/White, Jacobs & Caddy. Maybe a Goddard in the Free Agency period.

We may also trade another player for a top player. e.g. Hampson for Goldsack? Who knows.

That will leave us with 4 picks in the draft. Personally I think that is what roughly will happen.

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I expect that to change significantly with Wiley coming in.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Only then could you even start to consider some of the players you highlighted earlier (in yellow) otherwise we would just be wasting our time.

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I'd be looking at elite kicks. Not really relevant to position, but any recycled player we get in should be an elite user of the ball who can improve the disposal skills of our team if they're called upon. Quite happy with our list and the way we draft so if we're looking at bringing any recycled players in that's the way I'd go.

Treloar from GWS can find the footy.Be surprised if he was available but if he is i couldnt get him into the place quick enough.Like them ball magnets.

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I agree about kicking. Big consideration in all trades/recruiting.

I'm interested about Goldsack. Collingwood have salary cap issues. Is he worth a second round pick. Can play tall forward or back. Maybe release Waite back to CHB or play there himself?

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Collingwood obviously dont have any issues if they are offering more than us for Lynch.

I don't agree that our primary need is key forward. The immediate need is key position backman as I don't rate Jamison and we need flankers who can kick. Bootsma is a year or two away. Dugan, Joseph are not a grade ball disposers and scotLand is nearing the end. The objective is to free up Henderson and yarran to play forward mid.

The mid term need (2 years) is to rejuvenate the midfield

You do this by bringing in bargain lynch and trading a ruck for picks used on drafting a mid or two.

Cassoulet, Mitchell, Henderson, walker and resting lynch play forward

To top things off we should target a star forward as the icing on the cake in 2 to 3 years but start by building the backlinr

Some or all?

With all due respect, Agro, the theory that our rubbish is automatically no better or worse than anybody else's rubbish, just because we can't develop players, is flawed. We can't be left to die wondering. Just let Psych do his thing.

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