People carrying on re garlett, small forward in average side , with extra attention after a breakout year.

No surprise he struggled

..recruit talent thru the drafts, combined with a couple of rookie upgrades.. ..chase a couple of rookie talls, consider trading a ruck.. ..don't sell the farm for a free agent.. ..and seriously look to develop from within, i think we have good talent and potential talent but have been lazy and complacent in this area for too long that the bad habit needs to be broken asap..

..in regards to Brock, i reckon this 'comeback' half season of footy could really set him up for the coming years.. ..hopefully he's gotten his body right, which he looks to have done.. ..he got better and better with every game he played, for the consistency of understanding senior team-mates.. ..in regards to 'footballer nous', he understands the game better than most on our list, is a proven big game player, and has the right 'attitude' that we need more of in our team.. ..and i've been really impressed by his balance of an inside game coupled with his outside link-up work and spread from the contests.. ..and especially after playing a few consistent games with the Krooz he was getting a lot of first possession roving off Krooz's taps, i think they both kinda understand footy in a similar way and could really get a good tandem act out of stoppages.. ..i reckon with better midfield set-ups and cohesive understanding Brock can certainly not just sustain his good form but improve upon it..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Interesting that we had equal most number of players (17) who polled a Charlie vote. Do we have more depth than we thought? MM should be encouraged by this.

If we listened to you, half the list would be gone, we'd be netting the 15 of the top 25 in this year's draft (probably only 3 of the top 10 though) and be completely turning over the list, with the kids being supported by a pack of triers.

Additionally, membership services would be spending six times their current budget employing five times their normal staff to go through their existing database and contacting each individual member to confirm their details and inform them of current news at the club.

Finally, we'd all don a Carlton jumper and kevlar vest in a club-sponsored event to ransack and pillage AFL House.

Perhaps if it were you, we'd want it not to be?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

..more likely injuries, form and suspensions is what caused no single player to have any good form consistently over the season.. ..everyone was crap for periods of the season, in fact the only player that actually was consistently good [for games actually played] according to the votes was Handshakes..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Don't exaggerate. Conversely, if it were up to you, without much exaggeration, we'd be giving a toothless exclamation of how things aren't going well, then proceed to do absolutely nothing to change things. At least Agro stirs things up a bit.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

You're kidding, right? I've been howled down on this place over the years, but I get them right more often than I get them wrong. McLean was one.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

It would make for a terrific signal to other players wouldn't it?
Work your arse off and become one of our better players and we'll just move you on for the effort. Culture.

McLean will be presented a contract but that doesn't necessarily mean that he'll like it, either.
There's a lot to play out just yet with over a dozen players still uncontracted. There will be further fall-out.

Jim, you really shouldn't talk about fan engagement. Like the club - you're out of touch. Stick to databases and/or injuries where at the very least you seem to have done some research into discovering prognosis.

Was? The whole thing hasn't panned out yet and is hardly clear cut. However what you posted suggested it's not all about McLean, nor was my reply.

I don't keep tabs on people's posting history very far (except for one or two extreme examples ) but lately I find your posts are pretty rational. However, when it gets down to the nitty-gritty you don't seem to back it up.

I'm sick of Carlton playing it 'safe' with contracts and undervaluing the draft pool and potential trades that aren't overpaying for the bleedin' obvious. Like I said, this is not just (or even) about McLean.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

I'm not in that boat, and there's nothing wrong with placing an option on a one-year contract. The player likes it better than a one-year deal, and the club likes it better than a two-year deal.

I don't undervalue the draft pool either, so I'm not sure why you feel I blindly agree with the club. I've made it pretty clear who I've wanted in the past beyond diving into the fresh talent, and those ideas have panned out (Saad as a rookie for example, passed it up two years straight before he went to the Saints).

I've also made it pretty clear who I don't want at the club, and I think you'd probably agree with most of my assessments.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Thanks Pafloyul, it seems having a strong opinion around here doesn't meet the KPI's anymore.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

What a wonderful fiction we have for ourselves; I and the other mods do nothing, and these array of names aren't a tad extreme when illustrating their views...

Is this actually what people think? Or did you miss the big sign at the front of every forum in this place?

Inmates, meet your asylum.

Take your bat and ball, and create a thread in TalkingIssues if you have a problem with the direction of this forum. Nominate any ideas at all for public viewing and discussion, it's your right as a participant.

Undermine the current process without offering an alternative and you are a poor, immature and laughable facsimile of a political uprising. We have rules here, notably respect shown towards moderators and issuing of complaints made through official channels.

This thread is for the discussion of list management, and I potted a man's opinion because in my opinion it is part of a larger set of extreme views, portrayed in a highly aggressive fashion. I stand by my comments.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I propose a change to Rule 4.1 - Moderators should be treated with respect. Disagreement with a Moderator is fine, but is only to be expressed via a Private Message (PM) ...what a croc.

Sorry Jimmae you played the man in your comments - So I responded to them accordingly I wasn't potting you as a moderator.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

I propose you take this discussion to the appropriate forum instead of crapping on a perfectly good thread with your merry band.

Final warning.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Jimmae if you genuinely believe that these comments are moderator moderating then please ban me for a week.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Or perhaps - young bloke that started a family earlier than he should have and has struggled to deal with the pressures of family life -> consequently impacted his on field performances...