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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:48 pm 
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All the best Rusty. Was always a fan.

He's better than a few of the same type still on the list.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:48 pm 
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Not sure how he could be considered a waste. He contributed to 52 wins during his time at Carlton.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:05 pm 
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That "AFL in house formula" really worries me.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:16 pm 
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AIRCAV wrote:
That "AFL in house formula" really worries me.

What do you think all the other leagues to determine it. It'd be a rigid formula, similar to the compensation picks for GC/GWS acquisitions:

- Years of service
- Games played in recent seasons
- B&F finishes, etc

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:21 pm 
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B&F finishes? You honestly think that??


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:34 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:44 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
B&F finishes? You honestly think that??

That was the AFL formula. He has two top 10 B&F finishes from memory.

Another criterion was the wage bracket, IIRC.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:55 pm 
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Had a big opportunity with injuries earlier in the year to get back into the best 22.
It hasn't eventuated.
Enjoyed his 2010 season but injuries, being passed by others, and a big gap between his best and worst meant he was on his way out.
Shame.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:00 pm 
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AIRCAV wrote:
That "AFL in house formula" really worries me.



"In house formula' ...the long awaited sequel from the makers of the highly successful ..... Tanking ? What Tanking ! the hilarious reality show where a group of senior executives and one big elephant share an apartment in docklands

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:02 pm 
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I thought i remember reading somewhere that to get comp a player had to be in the top 25% of earners at the club?

anyone know anything more concrete on the formula?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:08 pm 
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thegezman wrote:
I thought i remember reading somewhere that to get comp a player had to be in the top 25% of earners at the club?

anyone know anything more concrete on the formula?

Just tell the AFL we cooked the books and we used to give JR a cool $500k each year in a brown paper bag.

He was therefore in the top 25%


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:11 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
AIRCAV wrote:
That "AFL in house formula" really worries me.

What do you think all the other leagues to determine it. It'd be a rigid formula, similar to the compensation picks for GC/GWS acquisitions:

- Years of service
- Games played in recent seasons
- B&F finishes, etc


Nup, it will be:
-Contract $$$$
-Age


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:17 pm 
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thegezman wrote:
I thought i remember reading somewhere that to get comp a player had to be in the top 25% of earners at the club?

anyone know anything more concrete on the formula?


Top 25% of earners only applied to whether a player of 8 or 9 years was restricted FA or unrestricted.


1. Compo is evaluated on 'net loss' of FA
2. FA compo will be less than GCS/GWS compo
3. 5 bands of compo (Band 1 - 1st round (immediately after your pick), end of 1st, 2nd, end of 2nd, and 3rd)


If we get Cloke, we won't get any compo for Russell and or Thornton. Pies would get a 1st rounder, provided they don't get any FAs.


Last edited by Stamos on Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:18 pm 
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He may end up at Port - With Ratten for coach

Bet he would be over the moon with that

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:21 pm 
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thegezman wrote:
I thought i remember reading somewhere that to get comp a player had to be in the top 25% of earners at the club?

anyone know anything more concrete on the formula?

No that's one of the qualifiers for Free Agency categories if you don't meet the years of service required at your current club to be an unrestricted free agent.

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yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW AND BLACK !!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:28 pm 
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That would be amusing.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:33 pm 
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Stamos wrote:
thegezman wrote:
I thought i remember reading somewhere that to get comp a player had to be in the top 25% of earners at the club?

anyone know anything more concrete on the formula?


Top 25% of earners only applied to whether a player of 8 or 9 years was restricted FA or unrestricted.


1. Compo is evaluated on 'net loss' of FA
2. FA compo will be less than GCS/GWS compo
3. 5 bands of compo (Band 1 - 1st round (immediately after your pick), end of 1st, 2nd, end of 2nd, and 3rd)


If we get Cloke, we won't get any compo for Russell and or Thornton. Pies would get a 1st rounder, provided they don't get any FAs.



Okay cool, thanks Jim and Stamos for clear that up.

If we dont get cloke or any other FA's Russell on rumoured $300K at 25 years might equate to reasonable compo.

End of 2nd round i'd reckon. which is still better than nothing for a guy on the fringes.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:34 pm 
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Stamos wrote:
thegezman wrote:
I thought i remember reading somewhere that to get comp a player had to be in the top 25% of earners at the club?

anyone know anything more concrete on the formula?


Top 25% of earners only applied to whether a player of 8 or 9 years was restricted FA or unrestricted.


1. Compo is evaluated on 'net loss' of FA
2. FA compo will be less than GCS/GWS compo
3. 5 bands of compo (Band 1 - 1st round (immediately after your pick), end of 1st, 2nd, end of 2nd, and 3rd)


If we get Cloke, we won't get any compo for Russell and or Thornton. Pies would get a 1st rounder, provided they don't get any FAs.


That's two players we would have lost, what happened with your maths? Wouldn't it be a third rounder for Thornton (provided both are taken by another club)?

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