"the BLUE print"

camel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:16 pm

Donstuie wrote:

[youtube]7thmilGPWMI[/youtube]

Just getting around to watching this now...

mikkey · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:27 pm **Posts:** 4129

Greg Swann is on the Blue Print today, but "surprise, surprise" no hangout discussion with supporters afterwards. Probably indicative of how the admin is treating members.

spider · **Posted:** Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:45 am

mikkey wrote:

Greg Swann is on the Blue Print today, but "surprise, surprise" no hangout discussion with supporters afterwards. Probably indicative of how the admin is treating members.

Mikkey ,do you know why?

Freddy47 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:17 pm **Posts:** 275

spider wrote:

mikkey wrote:

Greg Swann is on the Blue Print today, but "surprise, surprise" no hangout discussion with supporters afterwards. Probably indicative of how the admin is treating members.

Mikkey ,do you know why?

He's been checking TC.

DocSherrin III · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:09 pm **Posts:** 17219

Pretty obvious. You don't want half a dozen nuff-nuff supporters on there criticizing him on the season/coach's dismissal/etc. I would like to see Swanny give us something though. An insight into some developments with staff, with running the football club day-to-day, his biggest challenges, the role of the Executive, how the Strategic Plan was being honored as a living and breathing document within all departments etc etc...there's plenty of questions - a Q&A with Luca would have sufficed for the hangout. It's probably been the highlight of the year and he deserves a lot of credit for his work.

Freddy47 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:17 pm **Posts:** 275

DocSherrin wrote:

Pretty obvious. You don't want half a dozen nuff-nuff supporters on there criticizing him on the season/coach's dismissal/etc. I would like to see Swanny give us something though. An insight into some developments with staff, with running the football club day-to-day, his biggest challenges, the role of the Executive, how the Strategic Plan was being honored as a living and breathing document within all departments etc etc...there's plenty of questions - a Q&A with Luca would have sufficed for the hangout. It's probably been the highlight of the year and he deserves a lot of credit for his work.

And what are his plans to build membership, improve communications and reduce debt.

mikkey · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:27 pm **Posts:** 4129

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You don't want half a dozen nuff-nuff supporters on there criticizing him on the season/coach's dismissal/etc.

Good you are not "nuff-nuff" but a battle hardened keyboard warrior who criticizes the club on a forum he does not read. :screwy:

Participants have to apply and they can easily filter any morons. Actually they could have chosen people who had appeared before to avoid a silly debate. I was "earmarked" for a discussion with Swann, so would probably been on if the hangout had been done. I assume the official line will be that Swann has other commitments ...... I see it as avoiding the hard questions.

psl84 · **Joined:** Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:35 am **Posts:** 99

Shouldn't it be 'discussions' not 'negotiations' with malthouse? Otherwise why bother contacting roos? Bit of an amateur comment really

harker · **Joined:** Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:27 am **Posts:** 2345

mikkey wrote:

Participants have to apply and they can easily filter any morons. Actually they could have chosen people who had appeared before to avoid a silly debate. I was "earmarked" for a discussion with Swann, so would probably been on if the hangout had been done. I assume the official line will be that Swann has other commitments ...... I see it as avoiding the hard questions.

Doubt that Swanny was sexy enough to have hung out any further.

Pity, although it may have largely been a repeat of the same questions he had to answer from Sellars.
Think he may have well known that.

Donstuie · **Posted:** Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:31 pm

https://twitter.com/Carlton_FC

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Carlton FC‏@Carlton_FC

Swann: "Brock McLean will be a Carlton player next year. Negotiations have begun. We're confident he'll stay with us." #TheBluePrint

Swann: "We'd like to go to the @MCG at the end of this Etihad Stadium contract. We consider ourselves an MCG club." #TheBluePrint

Swann: "We'll pay $750,000 off the debt this year." #TheBluePrint

Swann: "At the end of the day, Travis is a Collingwood player. We're waiting. If he says he wants to leave, we think we'll be in the hunt."

Swann: "We won't know whether this decision is right for a year or two." #TheBluePrint

Swann: "Our list is OK. If we can just get them all out there, we'll be better than where we finished." #TheBluePrint

Swann: "We want a coach that can take us to the next step. We need someone who has been there and done that." #TheBluePrint

Swann: "It wasn't a done deal. We know that Mick wants to coach again... he's made that clear." #TheBluePrint

Swann: "Negotiations with Mick Malthouse have begun. We've also spoken to Paul Roos." #TheBluePrint

DocSherrin III · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:09 pm **Posts:** 17219

mikkey wrote:

Quote:

You don't want half a dozen nuff-nuff supporters on there criticizing him on the season/coach's dismissal/etc.

Good you are not "nuff-nuff" but a battle hardened keyboard warrior who criticizes the club on a forum he does not read. :screwy:

What?

Donstuie · **Posted:** Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:02 pm

[youtube]04AqofcPSqI[/youtube]

Love Sellers' passion. Put Swann under the pump and asked the hard questions. You can tell he's bleeding over what's gone on at Carlton this year.

Shame the show's ending. Would've thought they'd keep it running, or perhaps have special episodes after the new coach is appointed, draft day, trade week etc.

jimmae · **Posted:** Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:01 pm

Personally didn't rate the show in terms of what it was for what it could have achieved, but there's only so much that can be accomplished when you bring in professional media performers in on a shoe string budget. If the club want to stretch it out to a longer show with match highlight run throughs, press conference discussions and VFL/player updates, it would take probably an extra hour of planning and 3 or 4 hours of editing each week without much in the way of additional costs.

Of course, there will be a few people around the traps here who would be familiar with the fact that I flagged such an idea for TC in the form of a vodcast. Not going to sit here and say it was some marvellously original idea, but the fact that I'm just one guy chucking in 5 minutes of thought process and they're a professional organisation, with an office of about 5-10 involved in media and multimedia and they can come up with a half baked version of it in 2 years - well - you see where I'm going with this.

camel · **Posted:** Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:14 pm

I think the solely "Talking Carlton" approach is good.

Yes, a game review with highlights would be good too, but as a first up effort I reckon The Blue Print has been first rate. It's the openness and subject matter that has been refreshing. No sweeping anything under the carpet by the club.

Not sure if any other clubs are doing anything similar, in terms of opening themselves up for criticism, so for all the faults the club does have, for this, I reckon they deserve a pat on the back and the encouragement to ensure it comes back in 2013.

cimm1979 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:28 pm

camelboy wrote:

I think the solely "Talking Carlton" approach is good.

Yes, a game review with highlights would be good too, but as a first up effort I reckon The Blue Print has been first rate. It's the openness and subject matter that has been refreshing. No sweeping anything under the carpet by the club.

Not sure if any other clubs are doing anything similar, in terms of opening themselves up for criticism, so for all the faults the club does have, for this, I reckon they deserve a pat on the back and the encouragement to ensure it comes back in 2013.

Agree 100%.

Ive been surprised by the candor displayed by all concerned. I would much rather 15 minutes of good discussion with some Carlton luminaries past and present than a longer show with fluff and puff pieces about Gibbs' hair or what Robbo has for breakfast.

It's good they haven't tried to hard to control the message.

bluechucky · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:29 am **Posts:** 13689

Love the program. Just wish it was 30 min minimum.

jimmae · **Posted:** Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:52 pm

camelboy wrote:

I think the solely "Talking Carlton" approach is good.

Yes, a game review with highlights would be good too, but as a first up effort I reckon The Blue Print has been first rate. It's the openness and subject matter that has been refreshing. No sweeping anything under the carpet by the club.

Not sure if any other clubs are doing anything similar, in terms of opening themselves up for criticism, so for all the faults the club does have, for this, I reckon they deserve a pat on the back and the encouragement to ensure it comes back in 2013.

I don't mean a match review, I meant throwing highlight clips as they're speaking, to highlight what they're talking about.

Mostly I'd be looking for updates on players outside the senior team, progress reports and such. We've gone from having good VFL coverage previous years (mostly through forum submissions across the three major Carlton forums), to a goal highlights reel without sound.

It's uninformative, it's frustrating for those who cannot make these games regularly and it keeps us in the dark about the club's overall level of progress. How is that engaging members at the level required?

cimm1979 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:55 pm

jimmae wrote:

camelboy wrote:

I think the solely "Talking Carlton" approach is good.

Yes, a game review with highlights would be good too, but as a first up effort I reckon The Blue Print has been first rate. It's the openness and subject matter that has been refreshing. No sweeping anything under the carpet by the club.

Not sure if any other clubs are doing anything similar, in terms of opening themselves up for criticism, so for all the faults the club does have, for this, I reckon they deserve a pat on the back and the encouragement to ensure it comes back in 2013.

I don't mean a match review, I meant throwing highlight clips as they're speaking, to highlight what they're talking about.

Mostly I'd be looking for updates on players outside the senior team, progress reports and such. We've gone from having good VFL coverage previous years (mostly through forum submissions across the three major Carlton forums), to a goal highlights reel without sound.

It's uninformative, it's frustrating for those who cannot make these games regularly and it keeps us in the dark about the club's overall level of progress. How is that engaging members at the level required?

But a good start though jim?

thehulk · **Joined:** Sun May 28, 2006 9:18 am **Posts:** 163

We need one more episode to interview the new coach!

DocSherrin III · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:09 pm **Posts:** 17219

jimmae wrote:

Of course, there will be a few people around the traps here who would be familiar with the fact that I flagged such an idea for TC in the form of a vodcast. Not going to sit here and say it was some marvellously original idea, but the fact that I'm just one guy chucking in 5 minutes of thought process and they're a professional organisation, with an office of about 5-10 involved in media and multimedia and they can come up with a half baked version of it in 2 years - well - you see where I'm going with this.

I am familiar with the fact Jim. It was a marvellously original idea. I see where you're going with this. Those aren't the droids you're looking for.

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