The all NEW Mick Malthouse thread

Blueboy74 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:20 am

grrofunger wrote:

Wangers wrote:

Heard a rumour today that monga Lloyd will be our our forwards coach next year. The source has a 50/50 strike rate.

i reckon he would be about 80/20 on this one

So that's Lloyd, Sumich, Burns, OBree and Laidley that make up the names most mentioned.

Will be interesting to see who gets nearest to the pin....

Blueboy_Dan · **Joined:** Sun May 08, 2005 1:09 am **Posts:** 5245

I've been overseas for 8 weeks, what's this about Edelstein being in the coaches box?!

kennyhunter · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:35 pm **Posts:** 2432

JohnM wrote:

So let's get this straight:

Midseason, Sticks couldn't say whether Ratten would keep his job until year's end.
Then Ratten won a few games, and it was all good for Ratten.
Then Ratten lost a few games, and Sticks said that there'd be a review at the end of the year re Ratten and all other facets. Now not so good for Ratten.
Then Ratten won a few games, and it was all good for Ratten.
Then Ratten lost a game, and Sticks fired Ratts before the review.
Then Sticks intimated in the presser that Malthouse's availability kinda forced his hand on Ratten.
Then Sticks said that while he's a reluctant president, the members keep voting him in, so he has to stay on until 2014. Reluctantly, one would presume.
Then Sticks calls Ken Wood a Nazi, and we lose to St Kilda, and Mick needs to do a book tour before he can coach us.
Meanwhile, the guy who keeps the club afloat and is likely paying for Ratten's payout and Mick's payday, lives in Queensland and thinks that the board is stacked with complete idiots, and wants changes made.
While Jeannie Pratt loves Roosy, but Roosy loves his missus and won't come down and coach us.
And Nanette is crying, and Swann isn't really saying anything, which is a pity because every time Sticks says something, it comes out wrong.
And Fraser Brown is still really pissed off about Ratts, and Brown owns lots of earthmoving equipment, so you really don't want to piss him off.
Sometimes I think the least-stupid thing that the club has done this year is stick Jeffrey Edelstone in the coach's box.
Mick must really, really, really, really, really want to coach again if he's considering walking into the club that Carlton has become.

Oh John, if it wasn't so serious you would laugh ... actually you have to laugh or you would cry ... actually I'm going to cry too.
Please let this circus that is Sticks end.
POW

GWS · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:17 am

MPH78 wrote:

JohnM wrote:

So let's get this straight:

Midseason, Sticks couldn't say whether Ratten would keep his job until year's end.
Then Ratten won a few games, and it was all good for Ratten.
Then Ratten lost a few games, and Sticks said that there'd be a review at the end of the year re Ratten and all other facets. Now not so good for Ratten.
Then Ratten won a few games, and it was all good for Ratten.
Then Ratten lost a game, and Sticks fired Ratts before the review.
Then Sticks intimated in the presser that Malthouse's availability kinda forced his hand on Ratten.
Then Sticks said that while he's a reluctant president, the members keep voting him in, so he has to stay on until 2014. Reluctantly, one would presume.
Then Sticks calls Ken Wood a Nazi, and we lose to St Kilda, and Mick needs to do a book tour before he can coach us.
Meanwhile, the guy who keeps the club afloat and is likely paying for Ratten's payout and Mick's payday, lives in Queensland and thinks that the board is stacked with complete idiots, and wants changes made.
While Jeannie Pratt loves Roosy, but Roosy loves his missus and won't come down and coach us.
And Nanette is crying, and Swann isn't really saying anything, which is a pity because every time Sticks says something, it comes out wrong.
And Fraser Brown is still really pissed off about Ratts, and Brown owns lots of earthmoving equipment, so you really don't want to piss him off.
Sometimes I think the least-stupid thing that the club has done this year is stick Jeffrey Edelstone in the coach's box.
Mick must really, really, really, really, really want to coach again if he's considering walking into the club that Carlton has become.

Begs the question why I continue to be so heavily emotionally invested in the club.

Because you're as stupid as the rest of us?

camel · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:24 am

$3m for 3 years to be offered to Malthouse in the next day or two apparently. All going well he could be announced as coach by the end of the week...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-ne ... 6463332771

That's some lightning fast selection process. Smart, too, to limit the short list to just one to keep things easier.

Cazzesman · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:26 am

A smart person could sell 100's of these on TC.

Regards Cazzesman

Juddy&theKruezers · **Joined:** Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:12 pm **Posts:** 4426

camelboy wrote:

$3m for 3 years to be offered to Malthouse in the next day or two apparently. All going well he could be announced as coach by the end of the week...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-ne ... 6463332771

That's some lightning fast selection process. Smart, too, to limit the short list to just one to keep things easier.

verbs · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:31 am

Month long book tour is OFF.

JohnM · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:41 am

camelboy wrote:

$3m for 3 years to be offered to Malthouse in the next day or two apparently. All going well he could be announced as coach by the end of the week...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-ne ... 6463332771

That's some lightning fast selection process. Smart, too, to limit the short list to just one to keep things easier.

To be fair, I'm sure they fully intended to consider many applicants. But when your criteria reads 'successful applicant will have no less (but no more) than 3 AFL Premierships, have coached 3 other clubs (one non-Victorian), possess a silver moustache, not be currently coaching an AFL club but also not be out of the game for longer than 12 months, and have a really scary personality' it kind of limits your options.

What if Stick's "full post-season review of all positions" determines that the club needs a young, up and coming coach? :lol:

Shit, we're going to be in trouble then. Hey Bruce... can we have another 3 mill, mate? We've gotta get rid of Micky, and his manager's a bloody nazi about contracts and stuff. Cheers mate.

Effes · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:41 am

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/l ... 257iz.html

Quote:

In thinking long term, and looking for a model, the Blues need look no further than the team on top of the AFL ladder. In 2005, the Hawks took a major risk on a coach with no profile. They accepted a 32 per cent win rate through two seasons of rebuilding, won a flag two years later, and may win another this year. On current indications, it's likely they have a 10-year-plus coach. It's a reward for their courage, conviction and clear thinking.

It was the type of appointment Carlton of the past 50 years would never have made.

Courage, conviction and clear thinking - something this club is completely bereft of.

AK43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:01 pm **Posts:** 1030

Sticks really seems to believe that premierships can only be won by coaches who've previously coached premiership teams, and that only experienced coaches can be tough with players. As someone else said, if you didn't laugh, you'd cry.

Humpers · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:28 pm **Posts:** 4914

Effes wrote:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/life-of-mick-blue-messiah-20120901-257iz.html

Quote:

In thinking long term, and looking for a model, the Blues need look no further than the team on top of the AFL ladder. In 2005, the Hawks took a major risk on a coach with no profile. They accepted a 32 per cent win rate through two seasons of rebuilding, won a flag two years later, and may win another this year. On current indications, it's likely they have a 10-year-plus coach. It's a reward for their courage, conviction and clear thinking.

It was the type of appointment Carlton of the past 50 years would never have made.

Courage, conviction and clear thinking - something this club is completely bereft of.

I don't understand why we are willing to sell the farm to lure the 60yo Malthouse....look at the improvement of the Crows under Sanderson and the Cats under Scott. Why not go through a proper interview process and perhaps end up with someone like Burns or Hinkley?

Also this notion that we must get a flag in the next 2 years is utter BS considering we can't even manage to win 3 games in a row. Sure if we were a top 4 side then we would be entitled to think we could "top up" with an established player however I think it is clear we should be drafting kids. Remember Scotland is near the end, Waite, Judd and Carazzo won't be far behind and then Simpson a year or so afterwards. We need to be prepared for when these guys retire.

camel · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:28 am

AK43 wrote:

Sticks really seems to believe that premierships can only be won by coaches who've previously coached premiership teams, and that only experienced coaches can be tough with players. As someone else said, if you didn't laugh, you'd cry.

Like one of my former bosses in a design studio I used to work at who would say: "Show me someone else who has done it and I'll let you do it."

Way to go creativity! :lol:

muzza · **Joined:** Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:41 pm **Posts:** 2385

Blueboy_Dan wrote:

I've been overseas for 8 weeks, what's this about Edelstein being in the coaches box?!

He's our new coach

muzza · **Joined:** Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:41 pm **Posts:** 2385

camelboy wrote:

$3m for 3 years to be offered to Malthouse in the next day or two apparently. All going well he could be announced as coach by the end of the week...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-ne ... 6463332771

That's some lightning fast selection process. Smart, too, to limit the short list to just one to keep things easier.

But what about his media commitments?

He lied to me.

I feel so used.

Effes · **Posted:** Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:41 am

Humpers wrote:

Effes wrote:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/life-of-mick-blue-messiah-20120901-257iz.html

Quote:

In thinking long term, and looking for a model, the Blues need look no further than the team on top of the AFL ladder. In 2005, the Hawks took a major risk on a coach with no profile. They accepted a 32 per cent win rate through two seasons of rebuilding, won a flag two years later, and may win another this year. On current indications, it's likely they have a 10-year-plus coach. It's a reward for their courage, conviction and clear thinking.

It was the type of appointment Carlton of the past 50 years would never have made.

Courage, conviction and clear thinking - something this club is completely bereft of.

I don't understand why we are willing to sell the farm to lure the 60yo Malthouse....look at the improvement of the Crows under Sanderson and the Cats under Scott. Why not go through a proper interview process and perhaps end up with someone like Burns or Hinkley?

Also this notion that we must get a flag in the next 2 years is utter BS considering we can't even manage to win 3 games in a row. Sure if we were a top 4 side then we would be entitled to think we could "top up" with an established player however I think it is clear we should be drafting kids. Remember Scotland is near the end, Waite, Judd and Carazzo won't be far behind and then Simpson a year or so afterwards. We need to be prepared for when these guys retire.

All good points Humpers - unfortunately the club is run by amateurs.

When will Sticks do the right thing and resign?

Pafloyul · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:15 pm **Posts:** 4842

Humpers wrote:

Effes wrote:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/life-of-mick-blue-messiah-20120901-257iz.html

Quote:

In thinking long term, and looking for a model, the Blues need look no further than the team on top of the AFL ladder. In 2005, the Hawks took a major risk on a coach with no profile. They accepted a 32 per cent win rate through two seasons of rebuilding, won a flag two years later, and may win another this year. On current indications, it's likely they have a 10-year-plus coach. It's a reward for their courage, conviction and clear thinking.

It was the type of appointment Carlton of the past 50 years would never have made.

Courage, conviction and clear thinking - something this club is completely bereft of.

I don't understand why we are willing to sell the farm to lure the 60yo Malthouse....look at the improvement of the Crows under Sanderson and the Cats under Scott. Why not go through a proper interview process and perhaps end up with someone like Burns or Hinkley?

Also this notion that we must get a flag in the next 2 years is utter BS considering we can't even manage to win 3 games in a row. Sure if we were a top 4 side then we would be entitled to think we could "top up" with an established player however I think it is clear we should be drafting kids. Remember Scotland is near the end, Waite, Judd and Carazzo won't be far behind and then Simpson a year or so afterwards. We need to be prepared for when these guys retire.

Too bloody right. Unfortunately, the thinking is probably that we are damned if we do and damned if we don't (recruit for the future) and that we might as well be damned with as many guns blazing as possible. However, we are only damned by our own making.

Drewgirl · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:57 pm **Posts:** 4746

Its so hard to be enthused by next year. Nothing changes from year to year does it ?

When will we get it right ?

If this Malthouse thing fails, our club is gone.................

DocSherrin III · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:09 pm **Posts:** 17210

Drewgirl wrote:

If this Malthouse thing fails, our club is gone.................

How so?

mikkey · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:27 pm **Posts:** 4129

verbs wrote:

Month long book tour is OFF.

In order to compensate MM for lost book sales, next years membership will include a copy of his book.

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