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Do you want Travis Cloke if it costs us $5m over 5 years?
YES 25%  25%  [ 94 ]
NO 75%  75%  [ 275 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:30 pm 
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It's time to embrace the draft. It seems no-one at Carlton wants to do that. Those days where you could buy players, buy coaches, buy success are GONE! GONE! GONE! The time has come not to hang it on the coach but to look within ourselves for the solutions to the problems we have. I'm annoyed; this has been driven by the media and people outside to within the club.

Take a breath Carlton. It's time to have a look at yourself. Brett Ratten was a SCAPEGOAT!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:51 pm 
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zoneman wrote:
It's time to embrace the draft. It seems no-one at Carlton wants to do that. Those days where you could buy players, buy coaches, buy success are GONE! GONE! GONE!


As a general comment I agree with you ... but there's always free agency.

SHOW ME THE MONEY! :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:11 am 
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Free agency doesn't give you more money in the salary cap.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:42 am 
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No, give Casboult and Mitchell specialist training. Spend about half of what you would have paid Malthouse on educating our young forwards!



Forget Cloke. Get the best development coaches/staff in the game.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:45 am 
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Rocco Iguana wrote:
cheaper to get Fev back, at least he can kick straight

Would be about 6-700k cheaper and probably more effective.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:11 am 
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Where are you pulling these figures from?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:22 am 
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The Rhino wrote:
Where are you pulling these figures from?

I'm guessing it starts with 'A'....

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:51 am 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
The Rhino wrote:
Where are you pulling these figures from?

I'm guessing it starts with 'A'....


Auditing, accounting, arithmetic?....

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:13 pm 
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If these numbers plus the 79% who voted in the Age that Ratts shouldn't have been sacked are taken into account by the membership people, they are going to have to do some tap dancing to get people to sign on next year. There are a LOT of unhappy Blues people out there and I am one of them.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:26 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
If these numbers plus the 79% who voted in the Age that Ratts shouldn't have been sacked are taken into account by the membership people, they are going to have to do some tap dancing to get people to sign on next year. There are a LOT of unhappy Blues people out there and I am one of them.


You may ne right BS, but wouldnt pay to much attention to that poll.

Effectively you are asking supporters of 17 other clubs Vote yes if Carlton made a good decision, vote no if you think they [REDACTED] up.

The details of the question were probably irrelevant.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:57 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Damiano wrote:
No, give Casboult and Mitchell specialist training. Spend about half of what you would have paid Malthouse on educating our young forwards!



Forget Cloke. Get the best development coaches/staff in the game.


This!! How do we know Cloke wont do an ACL in a NAB cup game next Feb!! Massive chunk of the cap on a flaky out of form forward that cant kick. I have enjoyed so much over the years watching him kick it out on the full from 30m out, please dont turn that laughter into sadness!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:07 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
The Rhino wrote:
Where are you pulling these figures from?

I'm guessing it starts with 'A'....


Auditing, accounting, arithmetic?....

:grin: not even close....

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2ndeffort wrote:
This!! How do we know Cloke wont do an ACL in a NAB cup game next Feb!!

That will be the moment we know he's a genuine Carlton KPP

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:32 pm 
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The Footy Show - Coaching speculation
[youtube]vaP8TaNNJkc[/youtube]


AFL 360 - Cloke and Carlton
[youtube]5KPk_6lTXvo[/youtube]

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:36 pm 
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I voted no to Cloke but....
2ndeffort wrote:
How do we know Cloke wont do an ACL in a NAB cup game next Feb!! Massive chunk of the cap

How did we know the exact same thing wouldn't have happened to Juddy?

2ndeffort wrote:
a flaky out of form forward that cant kick. I have enjoyed so much over the years watching him kick it out on the full from 30m out, please dont turn that laughter into sadness!!!

His kicking has been a worry, but he has improved over the years.

Only four players have more goals and a better goal kicking percentage than Cloke this year.
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Name                Goals  Percentage
Drew Petrie          55    78.6
Matthew Pavlich      60    67.4
Eddie Betts          47    64.4
Taylor Walker        53    63.9
Travis Cloke         45    63.4

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:41 pm 
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Listening to Murphy on TFS last night... did anyone else get the impression that some players were against getting Cloke in that meeting they had?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:25 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
Listening to Murphy on TFS last night... did anyone else get the impression that some players were against getting Cloke in that meeting they had?


It certainly didn't come across as the glowing endorsement that Jake Niall's article presented.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:44 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
If these numbers plus the 79% who voted in the Age that Ratts shouldn't have been sacked are taken into account by the membership people, they are going to have to do some tap dancing to get people to sign on next year. There are a LOT of unhappy Blues people out there and I am one of them.

:lol:

Probably get 50k membership next year......

Not signing up cos Brett 'Average' Ratten got the bullet???

I bet 50k plus... :thumbsup:

Personally im not signing up till Sticks leaves

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:45 pm 
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Stamos wrote:
Hornet wrote:
Listening to Murphy on TFS last night... did anyone else get the impression that some players were against getting Cloke in that meeting they had?


It certainly didn't come across as the glowing endorsement that Jake Niall's article presented.

I thought he welcomed it but was trying hard not to show it before hes signed.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:48 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Stamos wrote:
Hornet wrote:
Listening to Murphy on TFS last night... did anyone else get the impression that some players were against getting Cloke in that meeting they had?


It certainly didn't come across as the glowing endorsement that Jake Niall's article presented.

I thought he welcomed it but was trying hard not to show it before hes signed.

That's how I read it too....

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