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Synbad · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:27 am

I think whats important is the spotlight has also been shone on Sticks the board and the CEO in all this.

:thumbsup:

woof · **Joined:** Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:51 am **Posts:** 4919

Blue Vain wrote:

I still dont see it. Can someone set me straight?
We have a 59 year old man who coached for 16 consecutive years without a premiership at the 2 best resourced clubs in the AFL.
He was a balls bounce away from defeat in the 2010 GF by a team that has half the talent of Collingwood IMO.

Well BV if you are going to use that as logic for what you don't see perhaps you forgot about the 2002 grandfinal when with a team with quarter of the talent not half of Brisbane he nearly got them over the line. Take away Voss's last 15 minutes in that game and the cup was the Pies. If you want me to open your eyes even further the poor old bastard had his team peaking and playing in Grand Finals against two teams that happen to win 3 flags each in their period of dominance.
I just hope I don't have to sit through another home and away game against Hawthorn when after the first 5 minutes I know the game is over, year after year after year, or we play a team who decides to limit our run and spread and choke the friggin life out of us.

ThePsychologist · **Joined:** Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am **Posts:** 7893

Synbad wrote:

I think whats important is the spotlight has also been shone on Sticks the board and the CEO in all this.

:thumbsup:

Freddy47 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:17 pm **Posts:** 275

Synbad wrote:

I think whats important is the spotlight has also been shone on Sticks the board and the CEO in all this.

About time.

Big Kahuna Boot · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:23 am

Synbad wrote:

I think whats important is the spotlight has also been shone on Sticks the board and the CEO in all this.

:thumbsup:

..don't get too jiggy with it bro, another important facet is that the spotlight was shone by 'a blues powerbroker'..

..one of those tricky gigs where the ends justify the means.. ..supposedly..

Big Kahuna Boot · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:25 am

..also supposedly [hoping those in the loop can comment], the board isn't unanimous in chasing MM, supposedly some [j.pratt and co.] prefer Roos and supposedly he may be up for it from 2014..

Bookie · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:39 am

The Board want to run the place on other peoples money like they run their businesses. When it fails oh well.
Private equity version of a football club, not a membership based model as Demetriou suggests is the AFL style.
Ratten was second choice to Voss, and Malthouse is second choice to Roos, neither had a due diligence process like the other "AFL model" clubs where you appoint a panel of experts and interview for senior roles, not sneaky coffees and hush hush manager denials.
I like Mick reckon he's a super motivator of people and perfect for this group, but we keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Hopefully this time we get lucky. Brittain, Pagan, Ratten, Malthouse ,all no review one,one out of four (if it's three cherries in a line with MM) with the clubs money, is not an effective strike rate in business.........sits waiting for $200 raffle ticket phone call

buzzaaaah · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:31 am **Posts:** 17892

Just remember MM called Milne a "flower rapist" on national TV. Thats got to count for something.

camel · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:47 am

Synbad wrote:

I think whats important is the spotlight has also been shone on Sticks the board and the CEO in all this.

:thumbsup:

True, but unfortunately it will probably be shifted as soon as they dangle a big fish in front of the cameras.

club29 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:14 am

Synbad wrote:

I think whats important is the spotlight has also been shone on Sticks the board and the CEO in all this.

:thumbsup:

Should have that all sorted just in time for your much anticipated 'Sakc Judd' thread. That is going to be a ripper. :thumbsup:

CFC the gift that keeps giving !

Effes · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:04 pm

Bookie wrote:

The Board want to run the place on other peoples money like they run their businesses. When it fails oh well.
Private equity version of a football club, not a membership based model as Demetriou suggests is the AFL style.
Ratten was second choice to Voss, and Malthouse is second choice to Roos, neither had a due diligence process like the other "AFL model" clubs where you appoint a panel of experts and interview for senior roles, not sneaky coffees and hush hush manager denials.
I like Mick reckon he's a super motivator of people and perfect for this group, but we keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Hopefully this time we get lucky. Brittain, Pagan, Ratten, Malthouse ,all no review one,one out of four (if it's three cherries in a line with MM) with the clubs money, is not an effective strike rate in business.........sits waiting for $200 raffle ticket phone call

Effes · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:18 pm

Quote:

He said the club could not afford a rookie coach because its best players were running out of time.

"If we're going to strike, we need to in the next couple of years."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/c ... z24zWzuW3w

So why can't a rookie coach do this? He hasn't actually provided any reason as to why a rookie coach can't come in and coach the team to a flag within the next couple of years.

Chris Scott?

BigKev · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:26 pm

woof wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

I still dont see it. Can someone set me straight?
We have a 59 year old man who coached for 16 consecutive years without a premiership at the 2 best resourced clubs in the AFL.
He was a balls bounce away from defeat in the 2010 GF by a team that has half the talent of Collingwood IMO.

Well BV if you are going to use that as logic for what you don't see perhaps you forgot about the 2002 grandfinal when with a team with quarter of the talent not half of Brisbane he nearly got them over the line. Take away Voss's last 15 minutes in that game and the cup was the Pies. If you want me to open your eyes even further the poor old bastard had his team peaking and playing in Grand Finals against two teams that happen to win 3 flags each in their period of dominance.
I just hope I don't have to sit through another home and away game against Hawthorn when after the first 5 minutes I know the game is over, year after year after year, or we play a team who decides to limit our run and spread and choke the friggin life out of us.

Ah yes Woof, but then lets not forget the 2003 GF. Same teams. Collingwood had already beaten Brisbane early in the finals to get direct passage to the PF. There they monstered Port Adelaide to get to the GF. Brisbane got there too, but played an extra final and famously had to use 17 vials of pain killers to get their players on the park for GF. They thrashed Collingwood that day because the filth were scared and kept taking their eyes of the ball.

The Rhino · **Joined:** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:20 pm **Posts:** 6923

Only came up against one of the greatest sides in history, no biggie..

yibbida · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:30 pm

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=146164

Quote:

MICK Malthouse has told a Melbourne radio station on Thursday he is still yet to decide if he wants to coach next year.

The former West Coast and Collingwood premiership coach is seen as the most likely replacement for sacked Carlton coach Brett Ratten.

But, speaking immediately after the announcement of Ratten's sacking on Thursday morning, Malthouse said he had made it clear to his manager he didn't want to discuss possible coaching jobs until he had concluded his media commitments this season.

"There are not a lot of coaches out there, and people will speculate, but ... I am [still] up in the air about returning to the coaching field," Malthouse told the Neil Mitchell morning program on 3AW.

"There are two vacancies, one in Adelaide (at Port Adelaide) and one in Melbourne.

"Whether I throw my hat in there, this is honest, do I really want to put my head in the noose?

"Because that's what you do.

"You don't coach nine to five; it's all-absorbing, and these are the things I've got to look at and decide with my family.

"I've made it very clear to my manager - don't start involving me in things until I've concluded my jobs that I've got, and things can then be looked at in the cool light of dawn."

Malthouse said media commentary criticising him for making public comment before Ratten was removed had given him reason to be hesitant about a return to coaching.

Unless they have someone else in mind, this might not be the end of the incompetence

Rocco Iguana · **Joined:** Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:37 pm **Posts:** 1362

So, if MM decides he doesn't want to be the messiah will the CEO/Board resign to acknowlege their stupidity at painting the Club into a corner ?

just arksking

GWS · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:35 pm

Effes wrote:

Quote:

He said the club could not afford a rookie coach because its best players were running out of time.

"If we're going to strike, we need to in the next couple of years."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/c ... z24zWzuW3w

So why can't a rookie coach do this? He hasn't actually provided any reason as to why a rookie coach can't come in and coach the team to a flag within the next couple of years.

Chris Scott?

Chris Scott inherited a team stuffed with multiple premiership players.

The thinking is that the list needs a culture change and an untried coach may struggle to find the authority to do this whilst an experienced coach will have lived through similar previously.

With a perfect administration an untried coach may work perfectly but we've just been down that path and they're gun-shy.

I can buy both arguments.

If it works, it works.

If it doesn't then the administration are gone.

We'll see.

GWS · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:35 pm

Rocco Iguana wrote:

So, if MM decides he doesn't want to be the messiah will the CEO/Board resign to acknowlege their stupidity at painting the Club into a corner ?

just arksking

I don't think you'll have to worry about that possibility... :lol:

BigKev · **Posted:** Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:37 pm

Ok then - so two possibilities.

One - he's lying. He has history for dishonesty so this could well be the case. Doesn't make me any happier about him coming to Carlton.

Two - he's telling the truth. Surely this must dampen some of the enthusiasm for him as a candidate. I've never heard Ratten say that he's "unsure" about whether or not he wants to coach next year. First and foremost our coach must want the job. Ideally we'd want the new guy to start asap.

buzzaaaah · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:31 am **Posts:** 17892

Mick copped some flak for danceing on Ratts grave Mon.
Now he is backing off and waiting for Carlton to come to him.

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