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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:19 pm 
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just saying baz baz.....even his mate thought its best they lose $550k and move him on cos they didnt have faith he can coach.

imagine that???

parkin and walls on the wrong side of history.


I havent seen the reuslt yet. Ill just wait and have all the information and leave the assumptions to others


yeah its only 550k, Plus the extra 450k per year for MM's salary. So come October, we will be 1mil extra in debt. But thats nothing for the club well in surplus. Just hard earned Members dollars going out the door for nothing. I don't know about you, but i'm sick of getting those calls to go in a raffle and clear a debt. You fork out money then they just piss it down the drain.

Is Malthouse 450-500 k better than Ratten? I don't think so. We missed out on a prelim by 3points last year with injuries to key players. But, seeing Malthouse is a 450k better coach then Ratten, I expect a premiership next year or the year after or he can flower off.



but in 5 years we won one elimi ational final... and could hardly string 4 wins in a row together

are you serious?

we just lost to gold coast and they had more outs then us.

of course hes better than ratts... problem is ratts was never a head coach...lets see if anyone picks him up.... port???...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:20 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
sitting here waiting for another twist in this story

We sacked Pagan hoping to get Vossy and settled for Ratts

We might sack Ratts hoping for malthouse and could end up with Wallace or Eade orChoco

Dont think this saga has played itself out just yet


If i'm Malthouse, l'm asking for 2million a season now. Can ask for what ever he wants now.

He has the club by the balls over this early decision


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:24 pm 
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Goltzenberg wrote:
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I havent seen the reuslt yet. Ill just wait and have all the information and leave the assumptions to others


yeah its only 550k, Plus the extra 450k per year for MM's salary. So come October, we will be 1mil extra in debt. But thats nothing for the club well in surplus. Just hard earned Members dollars going out the door for nothing. I don't know about you, but i'm sick of getting those calls to go in a raffle and clear a debt. You fork out money then they just piss it down the drain.

Is Malthouse 450-500 k better than Ratten? I don't think so. We missed out on a prelim by 3points last year with injuries to key players. But, seeing Malthouse is a 450k better coach then Ratten, I expect a premiership next year or the year after or he can flower off.[/quote]

Goltz,

Obviously you are very supportive of Ratts which is admirable, but surely you aren't happy with this year? There's always going to be injuries and other mishaps but we looked very ordinary in too many games this year.

Debt is ok so long as it is managed. How much debt is the right amount?

If the club can afford an additional $1M PA (inc assistants) and it delivers us a new level of professionalism with a real prospect of a flag then I'm all for it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:25 pm 
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Goltzenberg wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
sitting here waiting for another twist in this story

We sacked Pagan hoping to get Vossy and settled for Ratts

We might sack Ratts hoping for malthouse and could end up with Wallace or Eade orChoco

Dont think this saga has played itself out just yet


If i'm Malthouse, l'm asking for 2million a season now. Can ask for what ever he wants now.

He has the club by the balls over this early decision



The club grabbed itself by the balls.
They never went through a process.. and extended Rattens contract three times.

all this on the back of no apprentiship... or limited anyway... and as Ross described it "baby steps"

They dont have to get MM... they can go through a process for next coach...will cost them less...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:25 pm 
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Goltzenberg wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
sitting here waiting for another twist in this story

We sacked Pagan hoping to get Vossy and settled for Ratts

We might sack Ratts hoping for malthouse and could end up with Wallace or Eade orChoco

Dont think this saga has played itself out just yet


If i'm Malthouse, l'm asking for 2million a season now. Can ask for what ever he wants now.

He has the club by the balls over this early decision


Maybe the deal was already done? :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:28 pm 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
Goltz,

Obviously you are very supportive of Ratts which is admirable, but surely you aren't happy with this year? There's always going to be injuries and other mishaps but we looked very ordinary in too many games this year.

Debt is ok so long as it is managed. How much debt is the right amount?

If the club can afford an additional $1M PA (inc assistants) and it delivers us a new level of professionalism with a real prospect of a flag then I'm all for it.

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The signing of MM wil easily bring in that much in extra sponsorship, members, gate revenue etc. plus other people will pay out Ratts.

Money will not be a problem.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:30 pm 
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I respect Ratts for everything he has done for the club and I will never bag him out. The only observation I have made this year is that the playing group lack the 'steel rod' that will take them to a flag. Over the last two years I have said that the only person i thought could replace Brett is Malthouse. I look forward to him taking us to a higher level and to a flag.

Good to see you in the trenches with us BM.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:33 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Ockham's Razor wrote:
Goltz,

Obviously you are very supportive of Ratts which is admirable, but surely you aren't happy with this year? There's always going to be injuries and other mishaps but we looked very ordinary in too many games this year.

Debt is ok so long as it is managed. How much debt is the right amount?

If the club can afford an additional $1M PA (inc assistants) and it delivers us a new level of professionalism with a real prospect of a flag then I'm all for it.

OR


The signing of MM wil easily bring in that much in extra sponsorship, members, gate revenue etc. plus other people will pay out Ratts.

Money will not be a problem.


The white knights, where would we be without them?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:36 pm 
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murray youre mistaken....

through all this THE CLUB has been in the gutter... not me.

u just dont like to face where were at..... do you???

did you ever imagine that when everything was exposed... we would be as deep up shit creek as this???

thank christ for bruce mathieson... what would we have done ???

all your blind faith.....belief in a fairytale.. and you have the temerity to have a go at me????.... cos i was screaming this for the past few years???

the club has been in the gutter and you have been in there with it without even wanting to see it...cant say i didnt warn u... and no good getting stuck into me.... its a piss poor effort...from u

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:38 pm 
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So Ratts is gone and Mick is in.

Does that mean Scotland plays his last game this week?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:40 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
murray youre mistaken....

through all this THE CLUB has been in the gutter... not me.

u just dont like to face where were at..... do you???

did you ever imagine that when everything was exposed... we would be as deep up shit creek as this???

thank christ for bruce mathieson... what would we have done ???

all your blind faith.....belief in a fairytale.. and you have the temerity to have a go at me????.... cos i was screaming this for the past few years???

the club has been in the gutter and you have been in there with it without even wanting to see it...cant say i didnt warn u... and no good getting stuck into me.... its a piss poor effort...from u

I wasn't '' getting stuck into you'' I was purely stating how I've viewed your histrionics over an extended period.

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Keep this topic on subject Gents. Leave the personal stuff out.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:47 pm 
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murraycray wrote:
Synbad wrote:
murray youre mistaken....

through all this THE CLUB has been in the gutter... not me.

u just dont like to face where were at..... do you???

did you ever imagine that when everything was exposed... we would be as deep up shit creek as this???

thank christ for bruce mathieson... what would we have done ???

all your blind faith.....belief in a fairytale.. and you have the temerity to have a go at me????.... cos i was screaming this for the past few years???

the club has been in the gutter and you have been in there with it without even wanting to see it...cant say i didnt warn u... and no good getting stuck into me.... its a piss poor effort...from u

I wasn't '' getting stuck into you'' I was purely stating how I've viewed your histrionics over an extended period.




and i have viewed your apathety and short sightedness.. your naivety and your laziness ....

so were even... except that i was right ......

not that that mattered to you before now...


so u can view anything you like from me.... but before you take the splinter out of my eye.. take that bloody big plank binding you out of your own...

yes???

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:49 pm 
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murraycray wrote:
Synbad wrote:
murray youre mistaken....

through all this THE CLUB has been in the gutter... not me.

u just dont like to face where were at..... do you???

did you ever imagine that when everything was exposed... we would be as deep up shit creek as this???

thank christ for bruce mathieson... what would we have done ???

all your blind faith.....belief in a fairytale.. and you have the temerity to have a go at me????.... cos i was screaming this for the past few years???

the club has been in the gutter and you have been in there with it without even wanting to see it...cant say i didnt warn u... and no good getting stuck into me.... its a piss poor effort...from u

I wasn't '' getting stuck into you'' I was purely stating how I've viewed your histrionics over an extended period.


Difference? :roll:

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Keep this topic on subject Gents. Leave the personal stuff out.

Thanks.

You have got to be kidding, you snip me for stating the bloody obvious ?

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Well now we've gone and done it haven't we?

Sacked the coach before the end of the year, now Mick won't come to us, he said so in that there newspapery thing during the year, didn't he?

We'll end up with Norm Dare or someone....hope you're all bloody well happy with yourselves..


Hey Mate

Please don't be under the illusion that any of the roonists on here have any influence over anything. They think that what they say matters when in reality it means nothing to anybody execpt them. The experienced people in football I listen to. The main protagonists on here I suspect have never even played the game. I know one is a dancer. He told me so. He told me he has never been involved in any football club as either a volunteer or paid person. So in my book there is no victory to them. They are meaningless to people like Ratten and people who actually put themselves on the line. Anyway mate. It will be what it is and we just have to make the most of it.


So you now need to have played the game to have a valid opinion?

Awesome! You've just dismissed the entire history of academic learning in one paragraph! Genius!

Why shouldn't a dancer have a valid opinion about the situation?

No problem with people having an opinion, however I'll value the informed decisions over the uninformed ones

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murraycray wrote:
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Keep this topic on subject Gents. Leave the personal stuff out.

Thanks.

You have got to be kidding, you snip me for stating the bloody obvious ?


I could've deleted the post and banned ya :thumbsup:

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Dirko wrote:
murraycray wrote:
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Keep this topic on subject Gents. Leave the personal stuff out.

Thanks.

You have got to be kidding, you snip me for stating the bloody obvious ?


I could've deleted the post and banned ya :thumbsup:

Don't bother, time for a sabbatical a bloody long one.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:05 pm 
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murraycray wrote:
Dirko wrote:
Keep this topic on subject Gents. Leave the personal stuff out.

Thanks.

You have got to be kidding, you snip me for stating the bloody obvious ?



sorry mate.. having a go at me.. cos the club is messed up is very pathetic from your end...

everything i have been saying has just been exposed.. and youre having a dig???

why?????

shooting the messenger makes u feel good????

there is nothing more insipid than someone taking a potshot at someone else cos you were wrong... and u hate facing it.

for me.. i have been closer to the club and gone out of my way to talk to more people involved in the club...and seeing them close hand.. its scared the beejezus out of me..

.... and youre only getting s mall taste of it now...

first with the way the season fell apart.. and then the way we handle even simple tasks...

i used to think the clubs shit doesnt stink....

my very early posts about the club on these boards were generally positive.

but when u get too close to something and see it close up.. and see warts and all.. and youre no longer looking at it through the eye of a child...its all different.

you cant blame me for where the club is at .. and where it finds itself at....

at some point you too must take ownership of the club and look at it with a critical eye... instead of taking pot shots at me for predicting this..... even if i never thought it was as bad as it is...

i dont support individuals or personalities...they come and go.

i support the club...

i dont give a @#$%&! if its ratten or malthouse.. as long as that person can do the job.


shit culture... ill call it for what it is...

and i dont give two bob what u think....!!!...


ill call u for what u r .... apathetic...!!!

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