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Navy Blue Horse
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:54 pm 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
3 year deal with Scott Burns as the senior assistant and coach in waiting.
Do it.



Sounds good. just cant imagine MM agreeing to another succession plan!

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Mick is a very, very smart man. He will not talk to Carlton until Brett Ratten is sacked. The reason being, he knows that HE is Carlton's ONLY option for a Senior Coach. The Rest are all unproven (with the exception of Bomber Thompson).

Carlton's only 2 options are to 1) Keep Ratten 2) Sack Ratten and have Malthouse as Senior Coach.

Hence, Carlton sack's Ratten, Mick says, "No, I won't coach Carlton for less than $1.5m and your first born Child". The board will go away and realise this is their ONLY option.

Sad state of affairs... Mick is a VERY smart man.


What about Mark Williams?
If we offered him the senior job don't you think he'd pack his bags and move to Melb?


Let's not be as deluded as Essendon* supporters, but coaching Carlton at the moment would be a pretty big job opportunity....

... It just depends on what admin & recruitment systems are in place to support such a high pressure coaching role...
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Just on that topic, re MM says being out of the game for 2 years is too long.

In 2014, how long would've Roos been out of it for? Does that add more risk? I think maybe yes. Yes it does.


I'd prefer Paul Roos coaching by telephone from Sydney to getting Mick Malthouse.

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Braithy wrote:
Just on that topic, re MM says being out of the game for 2 years is too long.

In 2014, how long would've Roos been out of it for? Does that add more risk? I think maybe yes. Yes it does.


I'd prefer Paul Roos coaching by telephone from Sydney to getting Mick Malthouse.

add Mark Williams to that also

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:44 pm 
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MM translator: "I'm keen as mustard, I've just got to talk the missus around."

I reckon Mick has missed coaching so much and is so desperate for another shot he'd damn near pay us for the privilege.

There's got to be more than just the hiring of a new coach though, clean out the "class of '95" for a start.
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kingkerna wrote:
Wojee wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Just on that topic, re MM says being out of the game for 2 years is too long.

In 2014, how long would've Roos been out of it for? Does that add more risk? I think maybe yes. Yes it does.


I'd prefer Paul Roos coaching by telephone from Sydney to getting Mick Malthouse.

add Mark Williams to that also


and Bomber Thompson

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Two years out of the game, cooks his chook.




& three years rubs his goat. :lol:

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CK95 wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Two years out of the game, cooks his chook.




& three years rubs his goat. :lol:


So where does the ox fit into all of this?

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Trying to take a logical approach here:

Approx 8 weeks ago we conceded that our Top 4 aspirations were out of the question.

We then said that despite injuries that a finals spot was still our 'pass mark'.

Now it looks like we'll be finishing either 10th or 11th depending on this weekends result.

To me that is a fail and therefore ramifications follow. Coach is always the scapegoat and I dont think this will be any different.

Losing Carrazo, Murph, Waite etc did hurt but every club at this time of year can say likewise.

I think Ratts is gone.

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CK95 wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Two years out of the game, cooks his chook.




& three years rubs his goat. :lol:



:lol:

I'm not sure about Williams. I think his pigeons mighta flown.!
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For what it's worth...

Malthouse, Cloke firm for Blues

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

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My only slight on Williams is that he left his team in a poor state.

Roos and Mick didn't.

Roos is my first option. If he wants to coach again, the Hawks, Bombers and Magpies are not hiring. There is only one job open for him in the next 2-3 years and that is Carlton right now.

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Darth_Blue wrote:
Mick is a very, very smart man. He will not talk to Carlton until Brett Ratten is sacked. The reason being, he knows that HE is Carlton's ONLY option for a Senior Coach. The Rest are all unproven (with the exception of Bomber Thompson).

Carlton's only 2 options are to 1) Keep Ratten 2) Sack Ratten and have Malthouse as Senior Coach.

Hence, Carlton sack's Ratten, Mick says, "No, I won't coach Carlton for less than $1.5m and your first born Child". The board will go away and realise this is their ONLY option.

Sad state of affairs... Mick is a VERY smart man.


Not advocating anyone here, but I think there's a few more than just those 2 options:

Eade and Williams are 2 that would say yes you'd think.

We would only go experienced coach and you would have to say MM would be the front runner but there are other options

if Roos is out of the running, I think I'd rather Eade than any of the other big name coaches.

Good tactician and man manager, would need some help with list management though!!!!
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Hypothetically.

How would you respond if the review came back and honoured Ratten's contract?

Maybe replaced a line coach or two and upgraded the fitness & strength department, but essentially Ratten was kept?

What would the repercussions for the club be, if any?
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Siegfried wrote:
For what it's worth...

Malthouse, Cloke firm for Blues

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx


Been hoping this was just pure speculation and wouldn’t actually come to fruition, especially Cloke.

Have a horrible, horrible feeling in my stomach now that it may actually happen. If we pay Cloke $5M on a five year contract then we deserve every consequence that will come our way.

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Siegfried wrote:
For what it's worth...

Malthouse, Cloke firm for Blues

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx


Starting to get excited now about season 2013 :thumbsup:
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MPH78 wrote:
Siegfried wrote:
For what it's worth...

Malthouse, Cloke firm for Blues

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx


Been hoping this was just pure speculation and wouldn’t actually come to fruition, especially Cloke.

Have a horrible, horrible feeling in my stomach now that it may actually happen. If we pay Cloke $5M on a five year contract then we deserve every consequence that will come our way.



:sad:

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lily of laguna wrote:
Darth_Blue wrote:
Mick is a very, very smart man. He will not talk to Carlton until Brett Ratten is sacked. The reason being, he knows that HE is Carlton's ONLY option for a Senior Coach. The Rest are all unproven (with the exception of Bomber Thompson).

Carlton's only 2 options are to 1) Keep Ratten 2) Sack Ratten and have Malthouse as Senior Coach.

Hence, Carlton sack's Ratten, Mick says, "No, I won't coach Carlton for less than $1.5m and your first born Child". The board will go away and realise this is their ONLY option.

Sad state of affairs... Mick is a VERY smart man.


Not advocating anyone here, but I think there's a few more than just those 2 options:

Eade and Williams are 2 that would say yes you'd think.

We would only go experienced coach and you would have to say MM would be the front runner but there are other options

if Roos is out of the running, I think I'd rather Eade than any of the other big name coaches.

Good tactician and man manager, would need some help with list management though!!!!


The difficulty clubs can have is balancing the need to be successful on field as well as increasing membership which in itself is also a race to the top.

MM is probably worth an extra 5000 members minimum. No matter what their credentials are both Eade and Williams are a mile behind.

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Cloke?


Do not want.

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