Beating Essendon* who are now playing the worst football of any side in the competion again gave us an abberation Carlton would play finals football that reflects the storey of a disastrous 2012 we were promised a top four finsh and didn't make the top eight. The Man of Illussion has led us nowhere we must have a significant coach who is innovative courageous and inspiringly honest!

This man of illusion should be Men of illusion !!

I personally heard Andrew McKay, quote, "We wont take anything less
than a top 4 finish"

And recently, Waite has come and said, that with the team fully fit in 2013
we will finish top 4.

Oh Please !!!

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BRING BACK PERFORMANCE BASE PAYMENTS !!!

The Man of ollussion is the president the leader of the club who came is as a stopgap President and who has never dealt with the obvious problems at the club and is more than likely the problem in that he wants a coach he played with and can have influence on.

This thread would have been better if named "Sticks - The Grand Illusion"

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Hmmmm ok

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