Some have to go coaches and some big name players on tonite game some players just looks like they don,t care so the club piss them off and get some kids who will have a go.

coss some will be delisted or playing for contacts.. or are just profiessional when they wanna be.

at the end of the day.

ratts got his answer

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probably should've gone after the port fiasco

what worries me is that its gonna go one way or the other from here

sure we could do an adelaide and turn it around with a new coach

but what if we dont what if we go backwards what then?

worst case scenario but it's a possibility

there is something thats an even bigger worry than the coaching and match committee

it's the recruiting

too many misses not enough hits

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"Then joked and said he (Jack himself) probably wouldn't even need to play until round 2 against Collingwood."

trust me we wont be going backwards....

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Moshe you are a champ but I think you have been drinking a bit. Totally unmotivated tonight with the whole season resting on a win.

And the opposition was a supposed crap team.

This is just not Carlton anymore. We need a coach who can instill discipline and mental toughness. Ratts has shown he can't.

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You missed the sarcasm teddy. Understandable after such a crap night.

sure hope so i cant handle another rebuild with nothing to show for it, dont think any of us can

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"Then joked and said he (Jack himself) probably wouldn't even need to play until round 2 against Collingwood."

I'm ringing in sick for the next 150 years. Excuses welcome

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You are correct or recruiting has been very poor. Out of our last 7 years in the draft we have only drafted 1 a grade player that is murph the rest are all c and d graded player or have not made it at all.

Had wonderful evening in down town Beijing, great food, wine and laughter. Then I caught the score at half time....
"We're the team that never lets you down......."

Really???

Glad this season is almost over.

The new broom needs to be a sturdy one, there is much to be one.

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This ^

[quote="ERNIE SOS"]MC why would you take Ellard , Curnow and Brock into a game of footy all 3 lack real leg speed you are playing a young footy team who have plenty of run and pace there is spot for 1 of them (Brock) . That side tonight there has to be massive changes for this club to go forward next year .

Undersized down back as well exsposed with Mcinesses ( drunk spellling ) going down !

I've been watching the Blue Boys for at least 30 years (and longer but I can't remember the games) and this is by far and and away the worst performance I have ever seen.

This trumps anything I can think of. To those who pulled on the jumper tonight (apart from McInnes) you are gutless pea hearted f*cks. You sh*t on the the three generations of support my family has given the club and you do not deserve to wear our beloved navy blue jumper.

This year has been a giant loss ever since the Essendon* game in Round 4 and we need to realistically assess where we are. Ratts, sorry mate, I love you like a brother but you are a sh*t coach. Sticks, please, just step aside, you are my password on pretty much everything, but it's time, you're out of ideas. Andy Mac, you were a god damn living legend as a player, in an administrative capacity you are lame.

Bryce Gibbs - you are a pathetic s@ck of sh*t and a waste of a high draft pick
Chris Judd - thank you for coming to our club, but your 'leadership' is ordinary and when we need you you cannot lead
Murph - you're awesome but you were missing tonight
Jamo - please just get healthy
Lachie - as above
Jaz Waite - as above, but please show up every game

The worst night I have had as a Carlton supporter, I'm embarassed to support Carlton tonight.

(I was absolutely dumb founded why Duigan was paid a free kick against tonight - eyes on the ball and jumped into a contest, friggin ridiculous decision)

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and the question has to be asked are we putting enough into it, it's probably the most important thing trading and drafting

excellent recruiting will win premierships, if you nail 2 or 3 drafts in a period of 4 or 5 years say a 66% to 75% ratio of hits and trade well

you get sustained success.. its a fundemental truth, more important than coaching and development

it's not easy to do and you need a bit of luck but it's the first thing you have to get right and you have to be the best at it

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"Then joked and said he (Jack himself) probably wouldn't even need to play until round 2 against Collingwood."

We were unlucky with injuries and the umpiring and Gold Coast kicking some flukey goals and our inability to get even a reasonable return from our own goal kicking. But having said all that, I'm still not sure how we managed to lose that game. And surely any last skerrick of doubt about Rattan's fate is now gone.

Pros:

McLean.
Yarran.
Waite's 2nd half.
Casboult's marking.
Even though Bell made a lot of mistakes, still like what he shows for the future.

Cons:

We struggle to win away from the MCG, which might be okay if we were Collingwood and we played there 15 times a year. But we don't.
Again we struggled to beat a team that flooded our forwardline. Our defence was left incredibly open, and they kept scoring easy goals on the counter attack. There must have been about 5 goals that bounced through, and could have been stopped, if we had better defensive set ups (with a goalkeeper near the goalline). Surely this is a coaching issue.
We simply didn't have the poise to get the job done. After falling 5 goals behind, we panicked. Kept on trying to rush the ball forward at a million miles an hour, only to turn it over to Gold Coast's loose defenders. Surely this is a failure from the coaching panel and the senior players.
Gary Ablett's continual staging and verbal appealing for frees.

talented player but an absolute wanker

whinging little bitch he is

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

The mental fragility is galling. Seemingly every time we give ourselves a chance in recent years, we capitulate and have really, really poor losses.

Perhaps Lucas and O'Keeffe will finally get some belated senior footy next week. And hopefully a few others as well.

Although some good things have come out of the last 10 weeks, it's been a bit of a wasted opportunity to really invest game time into some of the other fringe/future players. A couple of those lucky wins against Bulldogs and Richmond have really cost us.

I think our strategy to talk down the percentage factor and worrying about winning the game first would have been the best plan rather than doing exact opposite.... We tried to have a shootout and an uncontested game... at least we changed that strategy after 1/2 time when we were down by 40 odd points against a team that has won 5 or 6 games in 2 years missing at least 8 - 10 of their best 22...... almost a brave loss by our guys...

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I agree with everything.
I'm still in shock, even after going out to breakfast with some great-fiun mexican ship captains and having a good laugh.

I had top come here and read this before having my siesta. I'm like a mouse mesmerized by a snake. I know I should just run away from this but I just have to stare at it.

I thought Tommi's post was pretty apt. I feel similar. Just remove the 48 years and insert 62.

I probably won't even bother to get out of bed for next week's game unless we play a whole lot of kids. Play Gibbs in the NB for starters. Let him be as embarrassed as we are with his lack of performances for the entire season. Play Yarran in the front half where he belongs. Play somebody who gives a stuff about the jumper. Anybody. Give ME a game. I've still got my old woolly jumper with the collar on it and the sewn on insignia. It's well traveled but I'm happy to pull it on. I'm pretty well stuffed but by God, I'm still able to put my body on the line and I dare anybody to try and sell me candy and run past. Oh. And If I were to miss one shot from inside 40, I'd shout the entire membership of the club a carton of Corona.

GUTLESS ALMOST TO A MAN YOU LOT. I WOULDN'T BE SORRY TO SEE ANY OF YOU LEAVE IF THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN PUT ON FOR US.

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