Read the article...its in the sun.

Maybe you need to actually read stuff

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Ok so we are waiting on Ratts to get himself a full list baz baz....

Sign him up now.... cos theyre not coming back.....

Ratts should have given us the caveat... only if i have a full list can i be judged and we might make top 4....

Youre a funny boy.. and clingging to bellylaughs....

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Henderson, Jamison, Laidler. Yep, those guys out hurts.

Hampson, no loss at all. The best sides are playing one genuine ruck, and a forward/relief ruck and Cas is doing that job better than Hampson IMO. Watson is not an out at all (at this stage. he's very much a development player). Warnock... you have 3 genuine rucks on the list for one reason only: to cover injuries. Again, as long as you've got one genuine ruck fit, plus a forward/ruck, this shouldn't affect your structure at all.

3 guys out. Admittedly all from the one end of the ground, but it's hardly a list as long as your arm.

Oh, by the way.

Show me anyone who calls someone a great coach BEFORE they win a premiership

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baz,

if you have a few spare minutes, I'd love for you to list the personal attributes you think Ratten has that may well make him a great coach.

Not 'the team has improved since he took it over' but what is it about Brett Ratten the man that you can see that says 'he's made of the same stuff as the really successful senior coaches'. I'm curious.

I was answering your question. Your question which showed a real lack of understanding about who is injured. You seem to do that abit old fella. Not understand stuff and then put some retorical bullshit question made on assumption....

Fascinating really. Cazz really has you pegged there big boy, hasn't he?

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Succes is built on depth, in any position on the ground

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Pretty clear to me that if Roos was on the board, he would not get rid of Ratts

Meaning what exactly?

Are you saying we can't succeed for the rest of the year because we have 3 backmen out, or are you saying that we can succeed because we have the depth to cover our two injured rucks?

I can only solidly talk about the coaching attributes needed for the level of football I'm involved with split into a couple of parallel competencies. Football match day and training knowledge and community based involvement.

Football match day stuff is about requiring the players know their role for the day. Ensuring that the agreed
focus of the team rules and values are understood. Ensuring that you understand the the strengths and weaknesses of the oppostion are understood, which is very difficult when you only see them 2 a year and we dont have the resources to research them adequately. Putting training regimes in place that allow players to build on strengths and support inadequacies. Practising the way you want the team to play. So on and so on.

Community stuff is a little different and sadly undervalued however we do work wih local primary schools to try and gaurantee a future for pur club.

So, i am not sufficiently qualified to give your question justice. Your opinion might be interesting to read but show me how it is supported with experience and ill be more impressed.

But one thing I do know. Those football industry people in support of Ratten, I am prepared to listen to and take advice from

BTW appologies for all the grammatical mistakes. Cant be bothered checking them

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I am saying that sides require depth in any position on the ground to cover injuries, lack of form, compettion for places, to allow for players to gain experience in different roles..etc

Geez...you dont think very deeply do you.

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Jamison - should be back next week
Henderson - is a big loss
Laidler - is a loss but is covered, arguably, by McInnes/White/Duigan

Hampson & Warnock - no loss imo... who do you drop, Levi? The ruck setup we have now is working
Watson - starting to stretch it a bit there

Injuries - no more/less than other clubs imo - not an excuse now

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When was the last time a current coach or former coach came out and said "The __________ Football Club needs to find a new coach" whilst there was still someone in the position?

Just curious...

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I was answering the Sadman who didnt seem to know who was injured

Ever heard of competition for places. Doe sdepth make this easier?. If players are out does this help the side in any way other than giving other players an opportunity. Which BTW is a good by product of injuries

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tbf, Jamo, Laidler & Henderson are our three best defenders. Especially Laidler. He reads the play so well, is the guy who always pops up to cutoff attacks. Leaves his man when he needs too.

I'd go as far to say that Ratts had a harder time covering Laidler's absence down back, then he did Murphy's in the middle.

Collingwood without Maxwell, Reid & Shaw
Geelong without Scarlett, Longeran and Taylor

Would they still be a chance for a flag?

As a guide, look at the cats when scarlett missed four weeks. They lost 3 of 4, fell out of the 8, and everyone far and wide said they're spent, its over, nothing doing etc

To say we're missing three backmen, it's no biggie is really devaluing defender's worth to a team and flag winning team. End of the day it's defence that wins the GF. Refer to Hodge and the Hawks upset of runaway favourite Geelong in '08. They won with D.

And warnock for depth would be nice. Coulda rested Kreuzer for next week. If Kreuzer -- who's been banged up all year -- goes down, we got Levi and Watson.

That wouldn't be ideal for a finals game.

You're right there. I can't imagine it either.

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Go back to the end of the 1999 season. Let's even assume that MM had had no success at WC.

Coll were a BASKET CASE (a word used quite liberally by Ratten apologists)

A visionary self made media entrepeneur takes over the Pies as President

Within 4 years, MM has them playing 2 consecutive GF's with a bunch of retards running around the park (google the Coll 02 03 GF teams as an exercise in fun)

We can only dream of playing in losing GF's at the moment!

PS. Ross Lyon has not won a premiership as coach, yet Freo succeeded in one of the greatest coaching coups since Barass left Melbourne

Who's waiting to swoop on Ratten if he gets the tijuana?

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So tell me what any of that has to do with a coach being called great BEFORE a premiership?

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Ahh. I see what you did there.