I reckon we would need a big bodied FB, CHB type to cover for injury.

Might have to prepare for the fact Jamo- shoulders, Henderson- OP, Laidler- dislocated patella, could always struggle pumping out 25 games a season.

Plus Henderson going forward to cover for Waite is another outcome fortifies the argument for an AFL ready extra KPP ... imo

Do we really? IMO we need one more 'A' grade mid but as much as anything the development of so many of our 19-23 year old players will hold the key. Top 4 is definitely possible!

We have key defenders in Watson, Jamison, McCarthy, White, Bower plus McInnes, Laidler, Davies, Duigan who can all play tall depending upon match ups.

Up forward we have Waite, Henderson, Thornton, Casboult, Mitchell, Rowe plus Walker who can play tall and Kruezer & Hammer who can pinch hit. Odds are 2-3 will go.

Of course several are interchangeable. Generally you will need two of each.

Personally Id like to see us back our kids in. There is enough talent there IMO if used properly.

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Not sure psych.

Letting natural forwards develop and learn is one thing ... but, you can't teach Laidler's defensive awareness and ability to cut off the ball, it only comes with time & experience. Once we lost Laidler, imo our top 4 chances ended right then and there, that's how important a key gun defender is.

One would also have to be on the fence with Watson. He has a few weaknesses -- slow turn of speed, poor body to body positioning at times, all of this exacerbated in the wet, hence the MC reluctance to select him on a wet track -- which can and will be exploited by the elite teams.

McInnes and White seem like the real deal, but they're not the big bodied Mal Michael type I'd love to have down there to take on the Hawkins & Clokes & reiwoldts of hte league.

Development is the key.

We back Bell, Casboult and McInnes and looked what happened.

Lucas plays a great game against St.Kilda in the last round last year then we drop him, and then he plays a great game as a sub against Richmond in Round 1 this year and instead of backing him we stuff him about.

We seriously have no clue about development.

But I also agree we still need more young mid-fielders on our list - as apart from Dylan Buckley we have no mid-fielders on our list that are under 21 years of age.

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Yep! Everyone thinks Ratten has coached well over the past few weeks but does anyone consider that the kids coming in have made a huge difference to our play????

Get everyone back and I bet we will go back to our old ways!

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Lucas hasn't looked likely this year and who would miss out? The Ellard inclusion comes on the back of a truckload of good performances ditto Brock.

I hope he can show a bit more grunt in the future because he has just about everything else needed.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

If that happened we deserve to be a bottom 4 team.

The one positive from the injury list is the kids, and if that hasn't enlightened the club from management down to coaching as to what you need to do to develop a 30 deep list, I dunno what will.

I feel with Shane Rogers, we'll learn from our experiences.

... as far as Lucas. I'm not sure about him. He's shown flashes here and there. His commitment to the ball is a bit of a question mark.

We all saw what happened to Bower once his commitment was questioned.

If that was the major criteria... sorry, no Casboult, McInnes, Bell, Watson, Brock etc.

Teams like Geelong are battling for top 4 and manage to blood their kids... we wait for injuries and hope

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Teams like Geelong have many players nearing the end of their careers and replacements must be looked at, whilst at the same time resting some of the older boys.

Some of you guys see so much green on the other side of the fence, that maybe you should ask yourself whether you should indeed take your blankets and jump that fence.

Geelong have had injuries and suspensions along the way that enabled them to slip new kids in now and then.

Guys like Mitch Brown, Gillies, Horlin-Smith and Guthrie are still running around the VFL. You can't fit them all in. And there is a guy called Laidler who came to Carlton because he rarely got a look in at the Cats.

Regards Cazzesman

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We definitely need a class tall forward to develop. Waite wont be a long term solution.

First pick. Tall forward
Second pick. midfielder
third pick. Another mid/preferably with pace.
4th pick Young ruckman

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I agree on all points. Except I'd probably look to pick up a ruck in the rookie draft.

Dont need another ruck 3 and 1/2 on the list

More mids

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We'll probably trade one out at the end of the year. If we don't, I agree we won't bother picking another one up.

Geelong just about have a kid to slot into any role in their senior team - and quite a few spare half back flankers as well.

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If that was the major criteria... sorry, no Casboult, McInnes, Bell, Watson, Brock etc.

Teams like Geelong are battling for top 4 and manage to blood their kids... we wait for injuries and hope[/quote]

So who goes out this week? We have Robbo out for Ellard.

Who do you want out to bring Lucas in? Brock?

Next week against the Saints, who goes out for Lucas to come in? Maybe we should play Mitchell ahead of Waite? there's a thought.

I know lets drop Eddie or Jeffy for Buckley against the Saints.

It's an easy job being a supporter, you can always do it better. I mean it's a travesty more supporters aren't invited onto the MC.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Yes Guthrie will be a star.

Regards Cazzesman

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Questions for Cazz.

How does the recruiting actually work? Who firstly prioritises the selections so that we go after best available, or best mid, KB, KF, etc.

Secondly I know there is always discussion at the time of selection when numbers are called out because it doesn't always go your way but who gets the say.

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If it was only that simple!

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

SR and WH will compile their master list. They form part of the List Management Group (LMG) of 5 which have been meeting all year to discuss the current list.

The LMG work out who goes and who stays and what sort of new players we are after. If the LMG decide we need a KPP for defense then obvious SR and WH will go through the names of those types and have discussions with the other 3.

In the past the 1st pick is normally best available on the master list. The next could be a mix of best available or need depending on what the List Management group think is required and what will happen on the night.

In the past 7 years WH has always had a game plan which all are aware of and the discussions have all been had well prior to the draft night. The LMG have all agreed on the plan. The draft table is no place to be having 2nd thoughts.

Nothing will change with SR. He is very methodical and an excellent planner. The master lists will be compiled and the 'what if' lists also compiled if it is decided they will attempt to pick a certain type of player. You might have a Master list of 'Best available' and another list of 'type' players for later picks.

If for example you get to pick 55 and the LMG have decided we need a KPP over 192cm then we might have list of those rated types and tick them off up until the pick and see who is left. The thing is if you have 10 of those types on your list and they are all gone by pick 55 then you have to have plan 'B' and you might go back to the 'Best available' or another 'type' list.

All these things are decided well before draft night. SR and WH will pretty well know how most of the picks will go up until around 35-40 (as do most clubs) so they can factor those things in.

Alot of the discussion at the table is rarely if ever about a change in the plan. Most of it is just general chit chat or asking are we going for type or the Master list. That might happen when a highly rated player i.e. Mitch Robbo is still there at a later pick when it was expected he would be gone.

As for the final say.....that is all worked out by the LMG before the draft. It is a group decision based on a vast array of factors. Obvious Ratts might say he wants a certain type and then SR and WH will supply the names of rated players who fit that type because they are the experts. It is a collaborative effort by the LMG.

Regards Cazzesman

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