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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:56 pm 
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Interesting to read. Big claims he makes about the effect he thinks he can have on field and goal kicking.
http://m.afl.com.au/news.htm?action=han ... N&listId=1


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:59 pm 
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I know this is the wrong thread probably


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:56 pm 
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Hope Sellars is not anti-Bell. The kid has done nothing wrong to date.

he definitely isnt anti-bell. Just mentioned that bell needs to improve in various areas using generic motherhood statements (fitness etc) rather than actually knowing what he was talking about. Hence he got caught out. He also didnt like the goal celebration

I actually dont mind him as a commentator on occasion as I think he can raise some good points. Just think that often his criticism of the blues is misguided as he just hasnt bothered to look at things in a bit more detail.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:13 pm 
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4thchicken wrote:
verbs wrote:
Hope Sellars is not anti-Bell. The kid has done nothing wrong to date.

he definitely isnt anti-bell. Just mentioned that bell needs to improve in various areas using generic motherhood statements (fitness etc) rather than actually knowing what he was talking about. Hence he got caught out. He also didnt like the goal celebration

I actually dont mind him as a commentator on occasion as I think he can raise some good points. Just think that often his criticism of the blues is misguided as he just hasnt bothered to look at things in a bit more detail.


Exactly 4th. I like Sellars - calls it how he see's it and doesn't mince his words.
How can we get him down to Carlton full-time. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:38 pm 
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Interesting to read. Big claims he makes about the effect he thinks he can have on field and goal kicking.
http://m.afl.com.au/news.htm?action=han ... N&listId=1


Have we signed up Perkins yet.

Jeez he sounds like a figjam but he sounds like hes calling a spade a spade

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:47 pm 
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4thchicken wrote:
verbs wrote:
Hope Sellars is not anti-Bell. The kid has done nothing wrong to date.

he definitely isnt anti-bell. Just mentioned that bell needs to improve in various areas using generic motherhood statements (fitness etc) rather than actually knowing what he was talking about. Hence he got caught out. He also didnt like the goal celebration

I actually dont mind him as a commentator on occasion as I think he can raise some good points. Just think that often his criticism of the blues is misguided as he just hasnt bothered to look at things in a bit more detail.


Exactly 4th. I like Sellars - calls it how he see's it and doesn't mince his words.
How can we get him down to Carlton full-time. :wink:

What would he do at Carlton these days??

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:56 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:59 pm 
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Posted this in the other thread but it's great to hear these sort of comments from our new RM.

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Geelong is one of the clubs that draft and just sit and wait and have some patience. I reckon we’re at that point. Carlton hasn’t been use to that before. It’s been a “there’s the best player let’s go out and buy him.” The rules have changed. We’ve gotta draft and we’ve got to embrace the draft – the supporters and the footy club.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:52 pm 
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Rogers was terrific and gives you faith in the future.

You could tell we will embrace the draft 5 picks?
The star recruit is unlikely
The speed thing was clever. Didn't reveal our hand. Tall and fast? Strong and fast just fast and can kick




Someone like Jordan Murdoch for instance. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:56 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
AGRO wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
Rogers was terrific and gives you faith in the future.

You could tell we will embrace the draft 5 picks?
The star recruit is unlikely
The speed thing was clever. Didn't reveal our hand. Tall and fast? Strong and fast just fast and can kick




Someone like Jordan Murdoch for instance. :wink:


Build a bridge.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:59 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Posted this in the other thread but it's great to hear these sort of comments from our new RM.

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Geelong is one of the clubs that draft and just sit and wait and have some patience. I reckon we’re at that point. Carlton hasn’t been use to that before. It’s been a “there’s the best player let’s go out and buy him.” The rules have changed. We’ve gotta draft and we’ve got to embrace the draft – the supporters and the footy club.


That would never happen here. The supporters won't and can't sit and wait. If a draft pick is getting 30 possession by about Rd 6 in the AFL in their 2nd year they are a dud as a far as TC is concerned. It's a sad and uninformed mentality but it is a fairly common take on things.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:19 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
That would never happen here. The supporters won't and can't sit and wait. If a draft pick is getting 30 possession by about Rd 6 in the AFL in their 2nd year they are a dud as a far as TC is concerned. It's a sad and uninformed mentality but it is a fairly common take on things.

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Unfair painting everyone with the same brush - atleast on this point of view.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:41 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Effes wrote:
Posted this in the other thread but it's great to hear these sort of comments from our new RM.

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Geelong is one of the clubs that draft and just sit and wait and have some patience. I reckon we’re at that point. Carlton hasn’t been use to that before. It’s been a “there’s the best player let’s go out and buy him.” The rules have changed. We’ve gotta draft and we’ve got to embrace the draft – the supporters and the footy club.


That would never happen here. The supporters won't and can't sit and wait. If a draft pick is getting 30 possession by about Rd 6 in the AFL in their 2nd year they are a dud as a far as TC is concerned. It's a sad and uninformed mentality but it is a fairly common take on things.

Regards Cazzesman


That's bullshit :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:52 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Effes wrote:
Posted this in the other thread but it's great to hear these sort of comments from our new RM.

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Geelong is one of the clubs that draft and just sit and wait and have some patience. I reckon we’re at that point. Carlton hasn’t been use to that before. It’s been a “there’s the best player let’s go out and buy him.” The rules have changed. We’ve gotta draft and we’ve got to embrace the draft – the supporters and the footy club.


That would never happen here. The supporters won't and can't sit and wait. If a draft pick is getting 30 possession by about Rd 6 in the AFL in their 2nd year they are a dud as a far as TC is concerned. It's a sad and uninformed mentality but it is a fairly common take on things.

Regards Cazzesman



What if a player is averaging around 12 possessions a game after their 4th game of football.


http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-g ... an-murdoch

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:57 am 
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Someone needs to tell him to change his specs. They make him look like Jabba.

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What if a player is averaging around 12 possessions a game after their 4th game of football.


http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-g ... an-murdoch

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then he'd get a mention in every thread ever created

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:22 am 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Effes wrote:
Posted this in the other thread but it's great to hear these sort of comments from our new RM.

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Geelong is one of the clubs that draft and just sit and wait and have some patience. I reckon we’re at that point. Carlton hasn’t been use to that before. It’s been a “there’s the best player let’s go out and buy him.” The rules have changed. We’ve gotta draft and we’ve got to embrace the draft – the supporters and the footy club.


That would never happen here. The supporters won't and can't sit and wait. If a draft pick is getting 30 possession by about Rd 6 in the AFL in their 2nd year they are a dud as a far as TC is concerned. It's a sad and uninformed mentality but it is a fairly common take on things.

Regards Cazzesman



What happens if you sit and wait 6 or so years and they all turn to shit do you wait another 6 or so years

Geelong has never had to do a complete rebuild they have topped up with youngsters along the way thats easy - But 10 years ago some one came in with complete recking ball and they have been building from the ground up - Thats ok if your the Suns or GWS with a bucket load of early picks but if your doing it with a handful and you sit and wait and they turn out to be rubbish you could be waiting a hell of a long time

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:27 am 
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I thought SR was fairly good on the Blue Print but one thing confused me.

He stated they work by the theory of "trade for today and draft for tomorrow" which is fine. I have no issue with that at all.

BUT, why then did we draft Rowe and Duigan? I have no issues with either player at all but surely they could of been recruited via rookie draft and their picks could of been used on kids.

Especially when we had nominated rookie positions available.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:27 am 
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psl84 wrote:
Interesting to read. Big claims he makes about the effect he thinks he can have on field and goal kicking.
http://m.afl.com.au/news.htm?action=han ... N&listId=1


How cool would be if Hurley gets the yips Saturday. :grin:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:30 am 
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this was a good read

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/y ... 244to.html

makes you sit and think of what they are thinking when people are all sitting there writing their list of who should stay and who should go

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