BTW Anyone else enjoy the goal from Tom Bell standing up in the tackle to get the scrubber kick forward for Robbo to smash in an contest with the ball spilling out the back to Eddie?
Been waiting for the two hard nuts to get on the ground together and this one was a highlight last night for me

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I reckon Kreuaer has been going shithouse this year.
He hasn't been moving freely, and has lost the ability to jump....does not get off ground.
Last night it looked like the took off the weight off the big fella and he got up off thr ground.

I know who he was competing against and older types like Jolly, but he actually rucked and ruck roved.
Personally, I see him as a ruck rover, and am sticking with that...but that's when he's super light and fit.
I don't think he'll ever be super fit if he keeps jumping into other ruckmens knees.

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I've made mention to this a few times this year...

Watching us on TV does not do justice to how poor we really are at times.

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thought army was very good yet again

Pros:

Real positive for mine was more midfield time for Gibbs. And a good performance too. The more midfield time he can get late this year the better.
Armfield again. Just had a fantastic season. Surely will do very well in the best and fairest.
Walker was good.
Casboult again showed some nice glimpses.
Watson was reasonable. Another game into him.
McInness was good again.
Nice to see Garlett's confidence return the last few weeks.
Thought White competed hard against Brown.
Kreuzer.

Cons:

Umpiring. They seemd to get a pretty good run with the umps, especially in the 50 metre arcs.
Tuohy was defensively poor against Bewick.
Good that Curnow is looking to feed it off by hand, given he's not a great kick. But he needs to show a lot more poise when doing so. Just seemed to flick it on straightaway without really looking.
O'Keeffe not getting much game time. Showed a little bit in a few passages of play.

I'm sure you've been sorely missed by the club since you decided we were average after that first loss for the season when we finished the game with one player available on the bench. They'll try and get better next year just so you can go, I'm sure. Meanwhile, the people who do go every week will keep going so there is a bit of atmosphere at the game and they will enjoy the little things that make them Carlton supporters. Like seeing the kids get a run or seeing Waite take a comedic hanger. And like seeing a group of kids get the four points and develop a winning feeling. And sing the song. 6-8 years ago, the true-blue-go-every-week supporters didn't get to sing it much and even when they did, it was soulless because they knew they weren't going anywhere.

As Bondi posted, you people from Melbourne take so much for granted being able to rock up when you feel like it. I'd love to be able to go every week as I once did but I can't. Next year my step mum turns 80 and my travel schedule is based around the fixture with her birthday as the fulcrum. That's what we far-flung members have to do. We can't go but we do stay up until 3:00 a.m. when we play afternoon games and we do get up at 4:15 when we play night games. I for one enjoy watching them play, even if they win a shit game because to me, that makes it a good game and I hate them losing a great game because to me, that makes it a shit game.

Try and view the glass as half full. It looks a lot better IMO.

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Reckon you have had too much Mexico sun or smog there BS

Well you couldnt get two more different points of view on the one subject

Have you read Hawks view which was posted on here a month or so ago

Most of it I agree with

One thing that struck a chord with me was where we are at now 5 years after the Judd deal

We are still a long way off getting that 17th and Judd wont be around in a couple of years

Its called the short term fix

The McLean deal( probably wouldnt get a game in a premiership team)
The Warnock deal
Short term fix

Injuries
Yep we have been hit hard by injuries but good coaching, solid structures and a full time reserves coach would compensate for the injuries to a large extent

Look at Geelong on the weekend
No Kelly, Chapman, Hunt, Smedts and Hawkins for most of the game and they lose by only five points

When we lost similar quality and numbers we became non competitive except against Collingwood, but whats more important
Beating Collingwood or playing finals

Mate I went to every Melbourne game when we were rock bottom seeing us getting pumped every week hoping the club had learnt from the mistakes from the Elliott years.

5 years on we are treading water. We arnt going anywhere and have lost a lot of interest in the Blues.

I am too old and and have seen too much to get excited beating a shit team with inexperienced youngsters or guys like Black and Brown who should hang up the boots.

As the Hawk said the AFL is designed now that success is built in roughly five year cycles.
Five years is up.
We may make a run at it in 2013
I hope we can

But If it was me the broom needs to be put into action
From the boardroom down to the bootstudder

Nah BS, we are a pretty average footy side.

Last year with reasonable run of injuries we finished 2 (or was it 3 sorry cant remember) games out of the top 4, and didn't beat any of the top 4 sides all year.

That's definitely second-tier stuff. And don't think we really were set to improve much this year really.

There's this convenient line of thought that 2012 wasapotentially great season crueled by injury. Thes nothing in our recent history to suggest that's true.

I think we fact that went into this season having replaced our head of footy opps, and our head of recruiting tells us that the club is aware that the people responsible for assembling a side good enough to win a flag had failed.

That we're clearly considering replacing the senior coach also suggests that the club doesn't buy the 'unlucky with injuries' line either.

I know we came from rock bottom nearly ten years ago.... But by any measure we're currently a second-tier side. We're 5-8th on a large number of measures, Both on and off-field. That's not opinion, that's what the data says.

The data also says the season was cruelled by injuries. One of the worst in recent memory.

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I don't necessarily disagree with you Keogh however it is worth noting that both Collingwood (Ball & Jolly) and Hawthorn (Gibson & Hale) have also gone down the "short term fix" path to an extent.
The difference is that their selections have been more astute than ours.

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Absolutely. Injuries probably cost us a few wins this year, but if you think that the only thing between Carlton and the top 3-4 is injuries then you'd be wrong. We were pretty good injury-wise last year and the top 4 teams were clearly better than us. We have a bad run this year and we're 12th. What makes anyone think this is a team that is good enough to have a genuine crack at the flag?

This shits me to tears - how can an AFL coach admit that they failed in getting the boys ready for the game? Why are we so turgid and it takes a rev up? Would Collingwood allow this to happen?

Laidler, Henderson, Hampson, Judd, Jamison, missing currently.
Through the year Walker, Murphy, Carrots, Waite,Murphy
Underdone but currently playing Murph, Carrots, Waite, Casboult, White.

Against the Lions eight players under 30 games; of those eight, six under 15; and of those, four under seven.

I can easily see a case for top 4 given we pumped the 3rd place side twice.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

We were 1 kick away from beating West Coast at their home ground, coming off a shorter break and missing Waite, Kreuzer and Gibbs, with Jamo on one leg and Setanta as our back-up ruckman.

We had a bad injury run last year (specifically to all our talls bar T-bird and Warnock), but this year has been disastrous.

You mean the side we pumped twice this year with blistering opening quarters?

You tell me.

Happens to all sides, Geelong got 8 goals up on the flag faves just two weeks ago.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I don't think 2 wins over Collingwood outweighs our losses to Sydney, WCE, Adelaide (terribly), Geelong, Hawthorn (terribly), Essendon* (before injuries) and even St Kilda (terribly; very meak). I think our pace and our rucks troubled Collingwood and they don't seem to have been able to counter it that well (as yet). Sometimes match-ups just work for one list versus others. Our overall W/L record against top 8 clubs is terrible and has been a problem for the past 2 years.

Essendon* wasn't before injuries. We got 2 in the first 5 minutes, and 2 more before the 1st quarter was out.

Maybe, but that wasn't what you were arguing about though.

Getting players fired up for opening quarters was your complaint.

Our issue hasn't been the starts it's been maintaining the intensity.

The games we've been awful in this year have gone like this.

We come out, look a million bucks, have a few shot's on goal then sometime between the 20minute marke of the first or the 10 minute mark of the second quarter we wilt like weeds in December.

It's not the starts it's been the resilience through the middle part of the game that killed us earlier in the year. Against the Tigers, Dogs and Lions we've been much better through the whole game and not just the start. Even against the Swans we fought hard to get back in the game in the third quarter and won a lot of the stats.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Made me pretty upset to see Gibbs running with Rich to be honest.
Rich is a 2nd rate midfielder and we are playing Brisbane for @#$%&!'s sake.
Just let Gibbs play please.

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