It's always a balance, Murphy and Judd are more damaging on the end of hard work IMO. They will of course need to win their own ball at times as well.

Why would you bring Bower in for either Watson or White?

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Hmmmm. Don't get that either. Really liked Whites game last night and Watson was solid. What I did like was the way they worked together, a number of times they zoned off to help the other.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

We looked so much better last night when we released the tags.

I don't mind Curnow tagging as we don't lose much but Carrots has to be a ball winner. He gets his hands on it and creates and sets up goals.

Good sides don't generally go a hard tag anymore. They have match ups at stoppages and different areas around the ground. Different players will pick up different players depending on whats happening. We seem to want to play footy from 5 years ago.

I hope ROK stays. The kid needs a chance to show he is worth keeping for next year. Personally I think Touhy needs a break. Looks to be still struggling with his back.

Change could easily be Judd for Touhy.

Personally like to see Ellard in and Thornton at CHF at the MCG. Need the extra bigger target there. Who goes out? Not really sure.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Remember, White has touched up Hurley more than once.
If Jamo is not fit, McInnes to Crameri?

Despite all the tagging arguments, reckon the Scum have 5 players who can hurt us; Fletcher, Watson, Stanton, Jetta and Crameri.
Robbo has done the job on Fletcher, or you could try Army.
With AJ out, not sure who would go to Jetta. I wouldn't trust Tuohy.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Wait, you're defining it by their ball use?

Surely it has to be by their intent...

Carrots for example is accountable but gets a lot of the ball himself, in fact you could say he keeps his opponant quiet by beating him to the ball.

The role Curnow plays is to match his opponant in getting to contests

Joseph would be more of your old school tagger who's only intent is to stop his opponant getting the ball.

If its the Joseph model you're objecting to, I understand, but if you're objecting to us having players accountable and responsible for running with an opposition player then I really don't understand it.

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Every player should have intent, it's a non-negotiable no matter your role.

Taggers have nothing to offer outside of stop their opponent having an influence.

Did you noticed how Sydney took Carrazzo out of the play last week?

Would they care if it was Curnow or AJ or Armfield?

No.

That's the point ATM we have Curnow so we use him.

If we had another Carrots that would be a good result but we don't so we are negating the opps best player as best we can.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I don't think we need him tagging, goes back to the original post that time into RoK offers more to our future than learning that we have yet another tagger who failed as a midfielder as he can't kick.

That's fine and he may well be a prospect but we need to win these nest 3 games, that's why the tactic is likely to continue, for the short term anyway.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Spot on.

Yep.

Coaches these days hardly use taggers etc. The better sides create defensive zones and roll players through the midfield. It s now a team defence that clamps down on key players.

Carrots is vital in both our offensive and defensive structures. I would bet he had a number of score involvements last night.

The better sides back their midfield and structures to win games. We have the talent, can we get the structures right?

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Assuming Betts is OK and Robbo doesn't get suspended, you'd think one of Bell, Brock, Curnow or ROK will make way for Judd. Unless Bell is sore, I reckon it will be ROK unfortunately.

The reason I say that is because I think Carlton will be going all-out to win this one. Over the past month or so, Ratten & the MC have done a pretty good job at getting a balance between "playing the kids" and winning games of football. But I get the feeling they are really setting themselves for Essendon*. Round 4 was the beginning of the end of our season and I think a lot of people around the club are still carrying some pain about that day. And I'm sure the club would see a late season 'junk time' win over Essendon* as a way to appease the masses (ie. "OK we didn't make top 4, or even the top 8......but we had injuries and it wasn't all bad - we beat Collingwood and Richmond twice each and we rolled Essendon* in Round 21..." etc etc). Plus I think they will want to win for Juddy after the whole chicken wing episode.

So all that means that the kid will probably miss out this week but be back for the Gold Coast game. It may also mean Jamo gets rushed back for Watson.

If Tuohy needs a spell, I think we'll have to look at bringing AJ, Davies, Duigan or JR back.

If Casboult is sore, T-Bird is probably our only option bacause Mitchell isn't ready and Warnock has missed too much footy.

If Jamo doesn't come up, that's bad news because we were too easy to score against last night. If Brisbane kicked goals instead of points in the 1st half, the result may well have been different. In fact, the whole team will need to work a lot better defensively against the Bombers....

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The counter is we would've won last night without Curnow tagging.

I'd personally drop Touhy, give RoK a full game across half back and make one of Bell, Brock, Curnow or Scotland the sub.

I think thats pretty close.

Personally Id like to see Thornton into to CHF on the bigger ground. You need that lead up fwd there doing the hard work, Casboult deep and Waite/Walker floating inside 50 with Eddie.

ROK back to a half back flank for a full game.

Gibbs to stay on a wing and Garlett on the other rotating with Yarran through HF.

White on Hurley. McInnes on Crameri.

Let Judd, Murphy, Bell, McLean, Carrazzo, Simpson go head to head with Watson.


PS

I'd also like to see Ellard, Collins, Bootsma and Lucas play!

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

I hope Ratts does not go all defensive next week given that now there is something riding on the game....keep playing the youngsters and just faarrking roll the dice....

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Maybe or it could have become a shootout, we can't know.

But you need a plan and currently it's to sacrifice Curnow against their best and it worked.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Did anyone else get more enjoyment in seeing Essendon* lose today than us win last night?