If you say so.

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Pretty average game, had our chances but again didnt make the most of our inside 50's. It seemed every time the Swans went forward they converted. Terrible turnovers very costly. Our forward structure seemed non existent, Waite leads too wide.
Some players simply not up to it, names have already been mentioned. Umpires were terrible especially in the first half.
Bit of a nothing game, shame about Jamo.
Wasnt expecting to win and were alot closer than i thought we would be.
Only 4 games to go.

I've given up on Gibbs - slow, soft and lazy. I prefer watching the next batch of kids.

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I hate it when people blame the coach for a players game....but I'm gonna do it tonight. I reckon Ratts has [REDACTED] up his game.

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It's going to be interesting to see how Gibbs goes with a new coach next year and how people react to that.

very clever!

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At the end of the day ball usage was the difference.

We have too many players who cannot kick well or make poor decisions in our back line.

Tbird would have played if the forward coach had his way.

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In the end they were just too good.
We were flogged around the stoppages, they were so mechanical with their extraction with the footy.
We tried our heart out but just couldn't get near them. Everytime we scored a goal or two, they had an answer.
One thing that I noticed, was bad umpiring, so many trivial free kicks paid against us, didn't have the rub of the green today with them.
23 scoring shots to 21, not bad and if it had of been us converting goals instead of points, then it could of been a different story.
Missed Judd, Hendo, Walker, Laidler, Robinson & Hammer ... could have had T-Bird and Duigan in the side, but lets now concentrate of flogging Brisbane next week.

Exactly. You look at it far too simplistically.[/quote]

Some like to over complicate things

Can't be true

@Carlton_FC: "We moved Bryce into the middle because we felt the game was getting away from us."

I thinks a game looks very different on TV compared to being there. Being present, what stood out for me was that the Swans always seemed to have more people around the contest and more options when moving the ball. We often stopped when getting the ball because there was no one to play to. It does not help that our delivery by foot was really bad.

What was the defining difference was that the Swans worked far harder off the ball. They ran harder and created the options. We did not and Murphy without the ball was disappointing and so were others. Our work rate was better the last 2 games and by not working hard by spreading or staying with your opponent made it so easy for them to control the game.

It was very frustrating to watch the non-ball carriers when Swans turned it over or we were playing out of defense. On the opposite scenario you have 4-5 Swans running hard leaving their opponents behind and opening us up like soft butter. They should have won by 10 goals but relaxed in the last qtr.

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You know Duke, I agree with you a 100% there and I don't think he's the only one thats suffered under Ratt's coaching.

I agree. Seems to me that Zac Tuohy and Simmo are two of the only players who have the foresight to lay a shepherd to help a team mate. Why aren't they coached in these basic skills?

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Gibb's should be our Goddard, he has skills and strength.

Today 3rd tackles, clearances, marks, topped disposals and importantly kicks.

One of our best players today IMO, workmanlike though.

He doesn't have the confidence? Imagination? to try something special or to breakout of his role.

Why not?

Yep, and it was nice of Carrotts and the other Carlton bloke (Scotland) to give him the hot potato and then didn't keep the Swans players away.

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Agree, I don't think we have helped his game. The negative roles in developing certain players is rubbish. Pagan started it and unfortunately it has created a player who does not have much impact on games, who seems to lack intensity and timid. At times he can look like a match winner, but this rarely occurs and unfortunately is simply a good 'foot soldier'. Our early draft picks were meant to be our saviours and help deliver that premiership we are patiently waiting for. Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way. I would like to see how he performs under a different coach before I totally give up on him. It's not looking good at the moment.

Both teams relaxed in the last quarter. It was as though the captains shook hands and agreed it was over. One of the most boring last quarters ever seen.

Are you sure you are not just blaming the coach because you can't believe that your heroes are not what you dreamed they would be when drafted?

Same issues as usual when we come against a well drilled team.

Sydney's back 7 have all played together for a number of seasons and it showed again today. They all knew how we'd move the ball forward and it was a piece of cake for them to pick off the long bombs. Grundy or Mattner or Richards would peel off and mark/spoil. Uncontested marks on a lot of entries with Waite and Casboult up on the wing or at half back. On so many occasions we had players leading inside 50 but never actually leading out of 50 towards the ball carrier. Such a poor 'system'.

Casboult as others have mentioned took some good marks but it is incredible how he can have such a poor kicking action. Not sure he can make it with such a flawed technique.

The clearances stats evened up a little in junk time but when the game was up for grabs they monstered us around there with big bodied mids - these inside mids are also pretty good kicks too...a great combination from a drafting perspective (Jack, Hannebery, Kennedy, McVeigh, Parker).

They say flags are built around defensive groups and Sydney's is up there with the best.

Kreuzer was dominated in the ruck and in the air, once again showing very little as a forward.

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what a shit game

can anyone explain what the @#$%&! we were trying to do out there?

our game plan? our forward structure? our clearance setups? what the @#$%&! was going on?

we fought it out - credit to the guys - we absorbed pressure and in turn applied pressure

but for nothing - because going forward we had no @#$%&! idea what to do

coming out of defence we had no @#$%&! idea what to do

stoppages we had no @#$%&! idea what to do

defending on transition we had no @#$%&! idea what to do

its like watching an under 12s game

simply awful and disheartening.

bring on next year and a lot of change

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.