And that's why it goes on, because it can be justified even though it's often uneccessary , particularly with a monopoly supplier like Aust Post.

My fear is that this type of corporate largesse finds its way into the AFL.

Does anyone believe the Vlad is watching his pennies when it's not his cash he's spending?

Justifying entertainment expenses is an artform in Australian Management and I hope that AF doesn't confuse the funds available to him, with his own money.

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Aus Post don't make money from letters. Their business is as a courier company and now delivery of e-commerce.
So it's not a monopoly and they do need to schmooze clients.

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Quite possibly.

Like I said its easily justifiable.

The only people who know for sure it's a dubious practice are the people organizing it. Unfortunately they are usually the main beneficiary.

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Ok Cimm.

Fahour cant be trusted to run an organisation worth billions... and Sticks can!!

We get your point....

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Why would you even consider getting a business person to run a football club when evidence shows the most successful clubs are run by TV personalities and ex Premiers

Andy Maher for Prez

Or Tim Lane
Or Sandra Sully
Or Dave Hughes

Its a pity Kochie barracks for Port and Costello is a bomber
Who did Joan Kirner follow
Or Get Harry


Businessman only become sporting club Presidents when they are old washed up and bored

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Successful non-Victorian clubs such as West Coast and Adelaide have no problem installing working CEO's as Chairman of their club. They do pretty well. David Evans does alright at Essendon* too.

I guess the evidence shows that successful presidents are strongly connected to important decision-makers, able to intelligently articulate their views, have a good track record in successfully leading organisations, and solid experience in governance (whether that be corporate or public sector, such as Kennett).

These criteria would apply to Hawthorn, Essendon*, West Coast, Adelaide, Geelong's current and recently-departed chairmen. And while I'm sure Sticks has other strengths, even his most ardent admirers would have to admit that none of the above traits apply to him.

Eddie is a bit of an outlier and probably the exception that proves the rule. His mini-me James Brayshaw shows that.

Get Sam Lane !

Hubba Hubba!



Failing that..... Get Tommi!!!!

They want Mathieson (nephew) to be president but I'm not sure he is keen on the 35 extra hours per week with no pay.

There is a concern that if Ratten is coach next year there will be a 30% drop off in membership.

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Does that mean 2 in 3 support him????

I think Trainer m ight be the one that wants it...

Need to get the support of the Pratts though.....

Did Sticks tell them he spends 35 hours a week as president???....

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Q. Why would Ahmed Fahour waste his time as President of a footy club when he currently heads up a $5 billion dollar business and goodness knows what his future career aspirations are, but I would guess they are substantial with a global outlook. Why would men of this influence want to be at Princess park sorting out how to sell more footy jumpers and members tickets?

He has asked to join the board and been knocked back.
He was told to go to election....

Thats public record.
So we know some people get invited on and some must go to elections.....

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OK, thanks for the reply, it would be a big surprise if he bothered again then.
Just out of curiosity what year was it when he wanted to join?

Like John Elliott you mean.

He loved a good lunch as well.

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He loves a good lunch cos he can put one on and make a profit.

Thats how it works....

Nothing like John elliott...

Sticks is a JE puppet....

Blue Tongue... he tried prior to Pratt... and again since.

The board dont want him.... they would be shit scared of him..... he wouldnt put up with underperforming muppets.

Scary proposition of 3/4s of the board.... and alot of the staff...

Hes about results(and lunches)

Though if you get results you can have your lunches....

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4 or 5 years ago I think, he was the head of the NAB at the time.

Grollo anybody?

So we've gone from Sticks and Ratts being the issue to 9 of a 12 member board and a lot of the staff.?


Which has been my position for a while. Yes we can probably do better than Sticks as boss but if the board is dysfunctional and full of people there for the wrong reasons, nothing changes.

You're happy to name Sticks as the main problem, but what of the other board members?

How do they rate?

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As I see it, if Sticks is President, he is responsible for dead weight on the board. How long would Eddie put up with non-performers, or WCE/Adelaide/Geelong.
If a heavyweight like Fahour comes in, there is nowhere to hide.

I heard that when Fahour was told to go to election, he agreed on the proviso the whole board go to election too. That offer was sensibly declined. Why would we need elections??

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Why would they decline Fshour but invite others?
Just sounds like a bys club where likeminded people are invited on.
Why cant we have an election and start again?
Anymody coming in alone would get railroaded by the boys.
Fahour's idea has merit.

Mayybe he can organise an alternative ticket .
As things stand only four can come and get stonewalled by a clique of board members...

Why would he do that???

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I agree, this is a problem and shouldn't be a barrier to getting suitably qualified people to work for the club.

But don't divisions already exist on the board? Sticks alluded to this problem on Open Mike (or was it EMT?) and he listed it as the primary reason the board sits at 12 people. I can't remember his exact words but it was something like "the board has so many members because factions wanted to sure up their positions and it's difficult to get rid of them " .

That sh1ts me to tears.

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Factions are crac ks.
Cracks open up when people are unhappy.

so we have a couple of different groups.

The Mathieson Trainer group... the Sticks group and supposedly the Fahour group.

We have had a few people make their way onto the board via invitation ... that happens when its unanimous.

Usually its money driven.
Pratts and friends.
Mathieson and friend.
Fahour has been left out of the party.. and yet if anyone can make things rattle and hum its him....

So let me get this straight... Sticks is the reluctant president.. and he will step down if someone more capable comes along.. but Fahour cant get onto the board??...

Sticks isnt capable of licking Fahour's Lloyd's shoes...when it comes to top end business.

So if they asking him to come in via an election unlike alot of others.. and he lays down the challenge to open the board up to an election process why is it ok as far as youre concerned that that should be correct???

Im pretty sure Fahour can foster up a pretty good ticket if he wanted to....

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