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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:18 pm 
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Re: losing friendships over the salary cap issue. Basically said "you have to be friends with someone first to lose a friendship over something".

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:21 pm 
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Was accused by people from the club that he was a traitor.....

Same people who knew about the salary cap rortings or were behind it and wanted him to be their accomplices.

Silvagni and Braddles were never paid the money they were owed...

silvagni has been involved with other clubs since and they have been employing him... so he sees the world not through blue coloured glasses anymore.....


It's an indictment on the shit management of the club in 2012 that Silvagni was treated so badly. Ratts and Sticks have gotta go!

Sorry, couldn't resist :grin:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:35 pm 
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These shows should be 1 hour long.

Is there any possibility of SOS returning to Carlton in some capacity if there is significant change at the club?

Is he a gun football operator? I know he was at St kilda and the AFL tapped him for the GWS list management role, but is it fair to say that he would be a great asset to CFC if he were to return? My only insight into his capacity post-football was his horrible performance as special comments man.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:40 pm 
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Scotty12000 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Was accused by people from the club that he was a traitor.....

Same people who knew about the salary cap rortings or were behind it and wanted him to be their accomplices.

Silvagni and Braddles were never paid the money they were owed...

silvagni has been involved with other clubs since and they have been employing him... so he sees the world not through blue coloured glasses anymore.....


It's an indictment on the shit management of the club in 2012 that Silvagni was treated so badly. Ratts and Sticks have gotta go!

Sorry, couldn't resist :grin:

Sticks did very well on both sides of the salary cap fence.

He received a fortune and when he was in admin and the club came out stinking .. he didnt.. he came out smelling of roses.. while everybody else got the blame...including Silvagni..

thems the facts!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:43 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Scotty12000 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Was accused by people from the club that he was a traitor.....

Same people who knew about the salary cap rortings or were behind it and wanted him to be their accomplices.

Silvagni and Braddles were never paid the money they were owed...

silvagni has been involved with other clubs since and they have been employing him... so he sees the world not through blue coloured glasses anymore.....


It's an indictment on the shit management of the club in 2012 that Silvagni was treated so badly. Ratts and Sticks have gotta go!

Sorry, couldn't resist :grin:

Sticks did very well on both sides of the salary cap fence.

He received a fortune and when he was in admin and the club came out stinking .. he didnt.. he came out smelling of roses.. while everybody else got the blame...including Silvagni..

thems the facts!!!

And yet he's (to paraphrase you) "stupid"...interesting...could be a bit more shrewd than you give him credit for


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:53 pm 
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I havent seen this, but SOS has a big ego so I am not surprised he carries grudges for a long time. I do know his kids bleed navy blue and I saw an interview some time ago where Jo said that Jack knows the exact date he qualifies for father son. So I have no doubt that if junior is good enough he will end up at Carlton.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:01 am 
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Sticks shrewd?????

lol

yeah..... elliot was... Sticks was and is a dummy.

do yourelf a favour and talk to him...... :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:15 am 
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My underlying feeling after just watching this was sadness that a true club great doesn't appear to have any love for the club.

Evidently this would appear to be for a range of reasons however clearly the salary cap scandal is a major player.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:36 am 
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SOS has always been always first and foremost for SOS - and his love of a dollar will always outweigh his love of the club.

But if and when his boys are ready (and good enough) they will only play for Carlton.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:00 am 
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Open Mike - Stephen Silvagni (part 1)

[youtube]WO2P0TS7ZaM[/youtube]

Open Mike - Stephen Silvagni (part 2)

[youtube]sazvnDkGbYk[/youtube]

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:27 am 
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Lurker Blue wrote:
Very soft interview by Mike (even more than usual).

Didn't push SOS at all on any hard questions.

Really a complete waste of time for anyone that knows anything about Carlton.


Disagree here. He tried to push for the controversial bits, but SOS wasnt buying into it. He sees no point in rehashing the salary cap stuff because the club has finally got to a decent place

on Kernahan
"wouldnt say he was a close mate, but Ive never had any issues, i cant remember having any arguments with sticks"

The salary cap scandal
"a lot of water has gone underneath the bridge since then. difficult time for not only the club but the players themselves. Certainly we co-operated with what the club wanted us to do"
"i could come out and tell you exactly what went on, but you know what, I think we've all moved on in 10-12 years, the club has taken a long time to get back to where its at"
"as much as Id like to say certain things, its not about me."

On John Elliot
"if you got nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all"

On losing friendships
"I can tell you that I had no issues with any players over that period"

on his kids playing for carlton
"Id prefer them to do something else other than footy"
"Their talent will take them where it takes them"

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:53 am 
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And Sticks is now President





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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:44 am 
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I heard rumours about a falling out between SOS and Sticks years ago and it had nothing to do with football or money

And if true it is no wonder SOS hates the man

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:54 am 
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The Wookie..

But he got asked about whether he is a mate of Kernahan or not....

Why???

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:03 am 
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Ex players fall out with their clubs, for a variety of reasons. Bartlett / Richmond as an example. By the time Stephen AND Jo's boys are eligable, and if they want to play the game, there will no doubt be a new regime in power at Carlton. Don't see a problem there.

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Sydney Blue wrote:
I heard rumours about a falling out between SOS and Sticks years ago and it had nothing to do with football or money

And if true it is no wonder SOS hates the man

SOS found out Sticks is indigenous?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:04 am 
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SoS agreed to get paid under the table. In the end we got found out and he didn't get his money. I'd imagine he is pissed off about that.

His kids are always in those Father Son Academy photos.

There would be a number of reasons he would prefer them to do something else. AFL footy does not look like much of an existance these days.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:05 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
I heard rumours about a falling out between SOS and Sticks years ago and it had nothing to do with football or money

And if true it is no wonder SOS hates the man


That rumour was disproven years ago.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:13 am 
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I really don't care whether he loves Stocks, JE or not. Champion player for the Blues and a Legend.


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