This will be controversial but this is where id like to see us lead the way. It so common practice in other sports to trade good players to improve your list.

We did it with Kennedy. Fair to say we like to still have him but the trade was a winner.

Does a club need a Jamison for example? Would GWS throw a first rounder or a Greene at us for him?

Like Grigg two years ago someone may just want to go.

What about if Armfield wanted to go to Sydney? Would it be worth chasing a Jesse White who could fill a hole for us?

Heaps of possible scenarios. We need to look at them all.

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Agree with this and I don't think the club would seriously consider it. Besides unless something's changed in the new CBA you can't trade contracted players without their consent. Considering all 3 ruckman chose to stay here when more money was probably on offer elsewhere I don't see any of them being too keen to move.

Yes interesting interview. Sounds like a class act Cookie. Much of Geelongs success should be attributed to him.

Back to list management - agreed it is vitally important. Despite 2012 being a year to forget our list is still more than capable with a few 'tweaks'.

What I'd like to see;

1. Yarran and Tuohy improve their 'tank' and look at cementing a spot in our midfield
2. Henderson be allowed to develop as our CHB. I much prefer him down back.
3. Kruezer is our no.1 ruck man. Play him likewise.
4. Robinson must become our 'in & under' mid.
5. Trade or recruit a mature aged big bodied midfielder to work with Robbo in this area.
6. Keep Brock (as per point 5 above).
7. Allow Juddy to play as our outside midfield runner.
8. Trade or recruit a mature aged KPF. Casboult, Rowe and Mitchell have played 1 senior game between them. I'd love them all to come though together but too many question marks still so let's get one to work with these kids who can give us something straight away.

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Good points.

No.2. I believe Henderson is a forward. He is a natural and they are hard to find.

No.8 is interesting. I tend to agree. Id also like to see Waite become a "third" option back or forward.

Is it worth chasing a Jesse White or Shaun McKernan? Maybe a big money offer to Jeremy Cameron or Charlie Dixon?

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Henderson is a really interesting one.
He moves well on the forward line and gets to good spots.
My knock on him is that he is a little slow off the mark and struggles to get separation from his opponent.
I actually like him down back because he can take a gun, zone off, is a very good kick and makes good decisions.
I think we're more likely to improve if Hendo drives from the backline

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Most definitely. Jeremy Cameron would be untouchable you'd think but Dixon, McKernan or even White would be worth a punt.

I do think Mitchell has what it takes to be a very good KPF but still a couple years away so if we can get a KPF that's ready to go to work with him then I'm all for it.

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Agree - seems a little too slow up forward. As Psych commented he does look like a natural forward but I think we are a better club when he is running off half back.

Either way it's a good dilemma to have.

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In our current state, it really shows what we need.

Midfield has been depleted, but we can cover it with fairly decent replacements. Brock, Curnow, Armfield, Garlett have all been serviceable in the midfield with judd, simmo, mitch, carrazzo, murphy out. I think our midfield has pretty good depth, just major injuries have crippled us.

Backline - Seems to be holding up with Duigan, Yazz, Jamo, McGuiness in the backline. With hendo, laidler to come back, we have one of the best backlines going around when all fit.

Rucks - Kruzer, Warnock, Hampson. Can't have any less ruckman on our list, then we do now. Casabolt did allright, but got smashed in the tap contests. With Warnock suspended and Hampson out long term really shows how important it is to have 3 ruckman on the list.

Forwards - This is one area we need to improve with depth. Can't be relying on turning uckman into forwards. Grab a key forward in trade week. Great sighting with Casabolt taking big marks though. Hopefully its not a once off game. With Sam Rowe / Casabolt, future is bright, but we probably need a ready made forward to come in and assist Waite to make a big run next season.

Overall, no team copes well with injuries, but continual improvement of the list in all areas will make the club dip less in form when we do have injuries. But, Forward line presently will always be our critical area at the moment

Taking Jamison out of our back-line is tantamount to conceding that we haven't a premiership window available.
That just won't happen nor would the senior group be happy with that.

Grigg was out of contract and our hand was forced.
Other than Lucas there is really no-one else there really to worry about right now, having signed Kreuzer, Gibbs, Yarran and Warnock as security or as a tradable commodity.

I know what you're saying and agree in principle, yet practically we may not have much to deal with.

I'd prefer to keep all 3 ruckmen, but it's not an ideal world. To improve our list we have to look at what trade currency we hold that we're prepared to part with. The obvious asset would seem to be one of our rucks. You gotta give something to get something...

We could trade Hammer or Warnock to address a need (eg. a tall forward or inside mid) and either pick a young ruckman to develop via the draft, or pick up someone like Jesse White in a trade involving one or more of our fringe players. If Levi performs well as the 2nd ruck for the remainder of 2012, that might give the club more confidence to trade Hammer or Warnock (as part of a deal to land someone like Caddy) and go for a young ruck in the draft. We'd still have 3 ruckmen, just not the same 3 ruckmen...

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Boy oh boy......Jesse White??? For the love of Christ do we not want to improve our list? This is a no no!

there are plenty of fringe defenders ...

One guy id trade with them is Duigan....

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On Jamo, it is also important to consider what he brings off the field.
Heard him on the radio at the weekend and he was good. One of the interviewers gave him an "out" when relating all the injuries to the club's dramatic drop-off.
But Jamo replied the side wasn't playing up to expectations before all the injuries hit, so that was no excuse. Also conceded the players probably dwelled on the Filth win too much too.
Handles himself well.


That said, I like pysch's point: we need to think laterally, be proactive and consider all options with our recruiting. What have we got lots of ... what do we need?
Put player(s) on the table we'd much rather keep but who, when it comes down to it, are expendible if it means we can improve our list. Ruck for a mid/fwd etc. (anyone but Jesse White .... )

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I dont rate Jamison as high as others. IMO not big enough to be a true FB, doesnt do enough offensively and has injuries that will plague him for the rest of his career. I feel as though Laidler, McInness are better options with Watson, Henderson, McCarthy as better Key defender options for the future.

In a perfect world we would have a Rutten or Lake who could fill FB but they are not easy to find.

As for the Jesse White example it was showing and example of type. However, there is no doubt he is talented and he might go cheap. Would he be worth a third rounder? You never know, a new environment, a last chance, a bit more maturity in a late developer. His type would be valuable. Big key fwd who can play ruck. May allow Henderson to go back?

Did anyone really expect M.Clark to have the impact at Melbourne he had? I thought he was a wasted talent at Brisbane.

There are so many permutations that can happen because of just one move.

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Offer Hampson for Tom Lynch from Gold Coast.

Stop giving picks away - we don't get a good chance at developing talent because we never @#$%&! draft it!

Russell/Thornton/Bower/Davies/White delisted or traded.

Stop trying to build a team around Waite. If we got Lynch then you could build it around him and Mitchell. Or Mitchell/Henderson. Mitchell has barely played but we really need someone to straighten up our forward line. Give him one game towards the end of the year. Would make things better for Henderson/Walker in the long term. Build the backline around Jamison/Watson/Laidler/McInnes/Yarran/Tuohy and give McCarthy a game towards the end of this year. Giving Mitchell/McCarthy just one game would show them what they need to do over the summer.

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I am not sure I agree with trading our rucks - as they are always getting injured and the chance of having all 3 available at any one time is minimal (ie this year for about 6 weeks out of 26).

I agree with the Synbad in that we have two many mid-sized blokes whose best spot is defence.

Davies
O'Keefe
Mcinness
Bower
Russell
Thornton
White
Laidler
Gibbs
Bootsma

Plus 4 smalls who regularly play defence
Thuohy
Joseph
Yarran
Scotland

Plus 3 KPP whose best spot is defence
Jamo
Watson
Henderson

There are only 2-3 spots per game for all those mid-sized blokes. Laidler and Gibbs are a lock in our best 22 and I like Mcinness and Bootsma. All the other guys are overs.

Need to delist/trade those mid-sized defenders and replace with midfield depth. That is where the game is won or lost.

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Would love us to recruit Tom Lynch.

With Nathan Bock being injury prone and nearing the end of his career I think the likes of Bower and Thornton might be of worthwhile value to Gold Coast until the likes of Seb Tape get a couple more years experience.

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Agree with this too. Rucks are hard to come by and this is where we have some currency in trade week. Trade one but rookie or late pick for another developing one.
With a strong draft and a reasonably good pick this year we have to bring in at least 3 young players.
I would delist Bower, O'Keefe, Thornton, Kerr, White. I think Russell will leave as a free agent.
Rookies to be upgraded are Touhy and Casboult. Curnow will be an interesting one, as we have 2 veterans next year we cant have a nominated rookie so he will be upgraded or delisted.
So if we upgrade 3 and lose 5 this leaves 2 ND picks, in a good draft need more than 2 picks.
Upgrades are counted as one of the 3 changes.
Look to trade another player, Ellard seems to be out of favour so he may be one. Not that i want to lose him but it may be win/win all round.

Not sure of Davies' contract status be he may be looked at too.
Of course there are still several players out of contract so the choice may not be the clubs.
Interesting times ahead with the onset of free agency.

Top up on what and with what? Why do you think we have these 'holes' in the first place? If the objective is to do a certain thing and you fail, you don't give up and do something else. If you do then you are out of the game entirely.

You have always been very 'old school', SB. The sport has moved on.

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