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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:10 pm 
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Now there's someone I never thought of. Lingy would be a great acquisition. Synbads right, Ratts seems very reactive. Gibbs should be played in the guts all the time. Make accountable and have to get his own footy. No point in wasting him as a tagger or quarterback.


Look how Goddards gone backwards since playing that role. You get lazy. No where that player I saw in the drawn GF.


Didn't he play the role in the drawn GF. I know he was forward sometimes but I thought he spent much of the time cleaning up.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:19 pm 
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Starts each season in the middle and doesnt really cut it. Moves back to defence and plays his best football and an important role.

Not much point continually crying out for the coach to put a square peg in a round hole.

Dont mind the idea of Ling as an assistant though.
Agree with this. His best role is either in defence or occasionally across half forward. Can play stints in the midfield but he's too passive and doesn't run hard enough to be a permanent midfielder IMO and provides greater value elsewhere.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:22 pm 
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Thats where we need a good coach to extract the most out of Gibbs instead of having him cruise along year after year doing the comfy roles for Ratts....
Does this guy ever challemge anyone???

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 Post subject: Cameron Ling on Gibbs
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:44 pm 
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Every time he is played in the midfield he is rubbish
He played there against the westcoast and he was a deer in the headlights
The eagles tapped it his way and just walked the ball out of the middle time and time again

Those saying he is never given a go in there have both hands on it
He cant play midfield he hasnt got the ticker to do it and shits himself everytime body contact is heading his way
Gibbs needs to be given tapes of Ted Richards over the summer and told to go away and learn to play like him

He will never be any good in the middle

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:50 pm 
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Thats where we need a good coach to extract the most out of Gibbs instead of having him cruise along year after year doing the comfy roles for Ratts....
Does this guy ever challemge anyone???

Only when forced to due to injuries etc....even so we still started the game yesterday on the back foot as usual which was weird given the crapness of the opposition....thankfully we took risks in the second half and changed things around which helped turn the game....but our fwd setups are still amateur hour five years on....and winning games heavily depends on Eddie nailing goals out of his arse which again thankfully he managed to do....on a positive note both Bell and Levi showed enough....would really like us to trial others in the next few rounds so as to get a better idea of how good the depth players really are....

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:50 pm 
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MM just said he suspects his best position would be run-with in the middle. Put him on Selwood, Beams, etc... Let them get him to the ball, take them on, and beat them.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:59 pm 
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MM just said he suspects his best position would be run-with in the middle. Put him on Selwood, Beams, etc... Let them get him to the ball, take them on, and beat them.

Nah leave him at half back....white is being groomed as a mid no worries.... :grin:

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 Post subject: Cameron Ling on Gibbs
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:00 pm 
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JohnM wrote:
MM just said he suspects his best position would be run-with in the middle. Put him on Selwood, Beams, etc... Let them get him to the ball, take them on, and beat them.

what MM thinks he should be a tagger
Surely not

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:01 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
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MM just said he suspects his best position would be run-with in the middle. Put him on Selwood, Beams, etc... Let them get him to the ball, take them on, and beat them.

what MM thinks he should be a tagger
Surely not


Thats not tagging! :evil:

unfortunately its a re education

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 Post subject: Cameron Ling on Gibbs
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:37 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
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JohnM wrote:
MM just said he suspects his best position would be run-with in the middle. Put him on Selwood, Beams, etc... Let them get him to the ball, take them on, and beat them.

what MM thinks he should be a tagger
Surely not


Thats not tagging! :evil:

unfortunately its a re education


Sarcasm
I have been saying that about him for a while
Pick the best player and say go beat him bryce
It didnt work last night and it wont all the time
But hus best football is when he plays the run with role ( tagger) :)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:07 pm 
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JohnM wrote:
MM just said he suspects his best position would be run-with in the middle. Put him on Selwood, Beams, etc... Let them get him to the ball, take them on, and beat them.
Only problem is Gibbs doesn't actually take them on when put in that role. He's not proactive enough and his kicking and decision making end up getting wasted. I don't mind it every now and then with the right match up but Carrazzo is much better in that role.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:47 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
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MM just said he suspects his best position would be run-with in the middle. Put him on Selwood, Beams, etc... Let them get him to the ball, take them on, and beat them.

what MM thinks he should be a tagger
Surely not

Gibbs the career tagger then... :lol:


Gibbs has been tried in the middle and sucked major corleone's

I like to see him tried (more than one game) as an attacking winger

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:25 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
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Now there's someone I never thought of. Lingy would be a great acquisition. Synbads right, Ratts seems very reactive. Gibbs should be played in the guts all the time. Make accountable and have to get his own footy. No point in wasting him as a tagger or quarterback.

We have quarter backs.
Tuohy
Yarran.

Gibbs needs to take that step up to a genuine matchwinner and weapon between the arcs



I see Gibbs as an even better version of Campo. A really damaging forward mid. Almost the architect of many forward sorties. 20 possies = 2/3 goals and 2/3 goal assists
The Andrea Pirlo of AFL

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:42 pm 
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mikkey wrote:
I assume everybody noticed how much better Gibbs played when taken off the tag. Seems to be useful at half forward and is a good kick for goal.


I think he's a terrible kick for goal given his field kicking is very good. The one in the last quarter was horrible and very lucky to go through. Without knowing his stats I'd bet he misses more than he hits.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:16 pm 
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I think Gibbs should play half foward.

I honestly think he doesn't like hard ball gets in a pack situation. I think the other clubs know that too. I'm not sure he actually wants to play midfield. You've gotta run to hard and I have never seen him run to exhaustion.

I think he is pretty good one on one, he can find space and we know he can kick.

There is no reason why he couldn't kick 40 -50 goals a season from half foward.

I'm sure we have a less skilled mid size player that can tag....

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:18 pm 
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The modern footballer has to be capable of adapting to different roles and skills and Bryce does have his moments in the sun but they are usually by himself. Geez, dont compare him to Goddard, Goddard plays with a bit of nasty and enjoys a bit of bash and crash which we lack, thats why we all love Robbo's endeavour. Next week watch Cotchins attack on the ball, this kid has heart, Bryce is embarrassing the brand most weeks. Hope i am proven wrong and Bryce ends up a champ but hard to see from the weekly evidence !


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:35 pm 
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Gibbs can play in the midfield.

He has played plenty of good footy their, and other times he is found wanting....doesn't mean he cann't play there.

The point is that Gibbs needs a meaningful role where we can take advantage of his class most. Simple. Ling and others (and I agree) suggest to give him time to learn to hunt his own footy in the midfield.
Now if he did that from day 1, ditto Walker...we may have had bona fide best of breed meidfielders in there right now.
That's just the suggestion.

There's no wrong or right, there's just the future.

In the WCE game they hunted us like no other has...not even the Bumbers...I blame the coach to a degree for not preparing the players for an assault on the opposition. We were smashed on every line and Gibbs was not the reason we lost that game. Carrots was the only one who stood up. Umpires could have watched for the inevitable shoulder dragging and semi winging tactics by Selwood on Judd...we only lost by 10 points and our rucks gave our midfielders zilch...they were given a bath.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:46 pm 
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AK43 wrote:
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I assume everybody noticed how much better Gibbs played when taken off the tag. Seems to be useful at half forward and is a good kick for goal.


I think he's a terrible kick for goal given his field kicking is very good. The one in the last quarter was horrible and very lucky to go through. Without knowing his stats I'd bet he misses more than he hits.
Wouldn't say terrible but his goal kicking hasn't matched his field kicking over the past few seasons. Don't have set shot numbers but these are his overall numbers.

2012 - Goals 6 Behinds 7
2011 - Goals 21 Behinds 18
2010 - Goals 6 Behinds 11
2009 - Goals 15 Behinds 8
2008 - Goals 14 Behinds 3
2007 - Goals 5 Behinds 6


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:40 pm 
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Gibbs Kicked 2 goal 1 behind, I'm happy with that.

When I see players practicing for goal kicking in the warm-up, I keep seeing the chip kick rather than a full kick (limited vision on TV though).

Are they doing this to warm up the kicking leg rather than practicing kicking for goal? If so why not chip kick to a player and if they want to practice taking a proper shot at goal do so.

Also get Eddie B to take some snapping/dribble kick classes in the off-season


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:00 pm 
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Clingon Gibbs?

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