The flaw in this argument is the simple question of 'Where did Griffin go in the 2nd half'.

Gibbs has done similar jobs before but he was just plain poor in the 1st half. Gave Griffin to much latitude and was ball watching at times allowing Griffin to get goal side past him into space.

The matchup was fine, the execution by BG was poor. Sure Gibbs had a good 2nd half but If Griffin had continued his form from the 1st half the result might have been different.

Regards Cazzesman

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Didn't have a problem with this at all. Boyd consistently gets 35 possies and Carrots kept him to 25. Boyd had little influence.

Gibbs was moved off Griffin in the 2nd half.

The execution is why I'm saying it was a poor match-up. Gibbs in his current mindset isn't suited to the hard running types IMO. The Scott Watters article on Goddard sums it up.

So with Griffen out of the game the dogs were rubbish and be beat them well from that point. Proves the coaching panel had it right that if we shut him out they are done. Gibbs was a good option just played poorly in a role we all know he can play.
Twisting that to be the coaches fault is a little wrong.

club, when you're obsessed with getting rid of the coach, its not enough to discuss the things he's responsible for, you have to look at everything as a reason to shitcan the coach.

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Ok so youre for keeping Ratten another year minimum.. ok good to know..
glad to see some people rate him as a great coach for us...

Good stUFF!!1

You do!!!... nice...

thats the thing about footy.. we get all sides... and we do know some people rate Ratts as a great coach to take us forward..

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You're ignoring that the debutants were injured for long time this year and not ready to step up anyway?
Smells like a witch hunt.

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Curnow actually went onto Griffen. We also started to win more of the ball at the stoppages. Gibbs when released was good as an offensive runners. Kicked goals and created.

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We didnt win that game because of Casboults 5 tap outs and 2 marks for the game...

We won it cos we had less in jured players on the ground...

We could have done that anytime this year... just right now it was forced upon us.

If Kreuzer was inured ALL year we didnt rest him when we had 3Ruckmen.. we rested him when his body was totally shot....

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yes.

So with Griffen out of the game the dogs were rubbish and be beat them well from that point. Proves the coaching panel had it right that if we shut him out they are done. Gibbs was a good option just played poorly in a role we all know he can play.
Twisting that to be the coaches fault is a little wrong.[/quote]

Not really. Was proven to be a poor decision, in saying that Ratts recognized this and made the change before it was too late, maybe you missed that in my pros?

You're focusing only on the debutantes from last night, I'm talking about getting games into as many younger players as reasonably possible.

One or two a week, a few games at a time. Give them a taste, to see what's required at the next level.


WTF are you talking about?

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LB's complaint is on something else – why weren't Casboult and Bell selected earlier in the year.



Synners IMO Casboult and Bell brought something last night that you can't measure with statistics.

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No I read it. I just dont think it was bad tactic to try. Far from diabolical. The only thing that stuffed up was the player played poorly in the role that he has been known to be very good in. I would hope in his game review that Gibbs will be disappointed with his first half.

Thats ludicrous.. you and the MC thin k Gibbs is a one trick pony.

Why would u get a guy that should be deliv ering matches to the club to play a shut down role for SIX years???

He may have won us the game doing something totally different....

You dont use your best players to negate... you use your lesser players to negate and get your better player to win the game for you...

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Oh, the other thing club, if you're not shitcanning the coach at every opportunity then you're for keeping him another year minimum.

It's all or nothing. You're wither with us, or you're against us.

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Synbad putting words in other posters mouth is nothing new.

Rubbish .

Why is Gibbs a player that should be delivering matches?

Shutting down Griffen would have delivered the win. As it turned out it did in the second half.

It wasnt diabolical coaching. It was move that had merit that failed due to the player not playing the role as he has in the past.

Most posters think its time to give another coach a turn at out club. That is fair enough but some are going to great lengths to find holes in his coaching to the point where they are being unrealistic.

I hope those in charge of the coaching situation have a more clear mindset.

Cant agree with that at all.

Gibbs was drafted as a ball winning midfielder. A matchwinner. You don't waste a No.1 pick on a tagger.

It is debatable whether it was right to tag Griffen but why not with someone who we will not lose as much offensively?

Armfield, Russell, Curnow, AJ could of all tagged Griffen and we wouldnt have lost so much going the other way. Even more important with Judd and Robinson out.

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Come on ThePsychologist you are smart enough to know that that was 6 years ago and means next to nothing now. Ling was drafted as a full forward (match winner). Lucky to play more than 3 games there.

You are right that it is debatable about shutting Griffen down being importants. Not diabolical. It wasnt an out and out shocking coaching move. It was move some would do and other wouldnt.

The move had merit but the Gibbs was not up to it on this occasion. He should be disappointed. If he isn't then we have a problem.