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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:23 pm 
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Jez1966 wrote:
So does that mean Zach is in or out??


In

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:25 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:27 pm 
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Effes wrote:
OUT: Judd (susp), Henderson (inj), Kreuzer (inj), Lucas (inj), Walker (inj)

IN: Casboult, Bell, Russell, Bower, Thornton


So what:

Tuohy
Hampson (Structurally)
Henderson
Walker
Simpson
Kreuzer
Laidler
Judd (Suspended)


Waite (Not fit)

All out of our best 22;

9 out of our best 22 out. That is incredible.......

No 'AFL' quality ruck man available with Warnock suspension.

Two 'first gamers' come in; one who has played twice this season - the other who missed most of the pre-season and start of the season.

A back line that consists of two inexperienced players in Watson & McInnes.

A forward line with no genuine forwards bar the little blokes.

I just can't believe this current and on going injury situation which has been unrelenting since pre-season......

We need a review of our fitness and conditioning departments. Is it all bad luck? OR has something gone horribly wrong?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:28 pm 
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Good luck to our debutants...you're gonna need it :donk:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:28 pm 
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This is working out quite nicely for Ratten

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:29 pm 
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What's wrong with Hendo? He was moving well all week.

Is this list official?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:30 pm 
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B: Joseph Jamison Bower
HB: Yarran Duigan McInnes
C: Scotland Robinson Gibbs
HF: Betts Watson Garlett
F: Collins Thornton Armfield
Foll: Casboult Murphy Carrazzo
Int: Russell McLean Curnow Bell
Emerg: Ellard White Dale

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:31 pm 
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rooboy wrote:
Effes wrote:
OUT: Judd (susp), Henderson (inj), Kreuzer (inj), Lucas (inj), Walker (inj)

IN: Casboult, Bell, Russell, Bower, Thornton


So what:

Tuohy
Hampson (Structurally)
Henderson
Walker
Simpson
Kreuzer
Laidler
Judd (Suspended)


Waite (Not fit)

All out of our best 22;

9 out of our best 22 out. That is incredible.......

No 'AFL' quality ruck man available with Warnock suspension.

Two 'first gamers' come in; one who has played twice this season - the other who missed most of the pre-season and start of the season.

A back line that consists of two inexperienced players in Watson & McInnes.

A forward line with no genuine forwards bar the little blokes.

I just can't believe this current and on going injury situation which has been unrelenting since pre-season......

We need a review of our fitness and conditioning departments. Is it all bad luck? OR has something gone horribly wrong?


Many on here will still act totally blindsided when we lose and blame it all on Ratten...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:32 pm 
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Sorry I meant out!
Alongside our chances

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:33 pm 
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Henderson out again? Hope they're not aggravating the injury each time they bring him back (for a game at a time).



Ratten's flagrant coaching to save his skin by rushing players back when not ready is a disgrace and Kreuzer and Henderson are flowered because of it - Ratten should be ashamed of himself.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:34 pm 
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Thats the team that the Cats reserves took to the cleaners a couple of weeks back !


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:34 pm 
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Casboult and Watson vs Minson Cordy and Williams :yikes:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:36 pm 
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Sure makes Warnock's suspension for 1-game extra stupid.

He misses 2 AFL games because of the magoos spastic schedule.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:39 pm 
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Why do people talk about Waite as though he is a best 22 player?

The stats show he barely figures for more than half a season every year, having played 43 out of 86 games from 2009 until now.

The club needs to move on and build the forward line around someone more durable and more disciplined.

Stop pinning our hopes on someone who isn't out on the park often enough!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:39 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Where is Ellard?


Not selected. Ratten is of the opinion that he cannot play Ellard, McLean and Curnow in the same side. So they play Bell?

You would think it wouldn't matter this week. We need every seasoned player we have.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:41 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:41 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
Siegfried wrote:
Henderson out again? Hope they're not aggravating the injury each time they bring him back (for a game at a time).


Ratten's flagrant coaching to save his skin by rushing players back when not ready is a disgrace and Kreuzer and Henderson are flowered because of it - Ratten should be ashamed of himself.


What a 'ridiculous' comment. You just post crap on websites without thinking logically about anything. If it went horribly wrong v Collingwood Ratten would have got the chop - lets be honest. So what does he do? He brings in a first gamer McInnes and says play in the back line against the best team in the comp. He completely put the club first and continues to do so by blooding young players again this week - obviously forced but he could have played Ellard over Bell and we wouldn't have learnt anything different. He even through Duigan forward v the Pies, would have been smashed if it didn't work....

Watson has been terrible for 2 weeks now - and he still plays him and gives him a chance.

Kreuzer was BOG just about v Collingwood. Next week he after maybe 10 minutes looked completely [REDACTED] and now he is out - hardly Rat's problem and what would you have had him do last week?

Henderson was cleared by the medical team - comes back and is out again? WHY? Why is he out again? He played the entire game and he is [REDACTED]? Smells like a mis-managed player who is incapable of dealing with AFL loads. Every other defender, forward, KPP player plays over 90-95% game time - and Henderson breaks down. Waite breaks down. Kreuzer breaks down. Walker breaks down - a brilliant athlete... what is actually going on at Carlton???

I know we have had some bad luck aka Murphy, Carrazzo, Hampson etc... but what about those other blokes............

How you can blame injuries on Ratten is just mind-boggling.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:41 pm 
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We are going to be the laughing stock of the AFL when we lose to this mob on Saturday.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:42 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
B: Joseph Jamison Bower
HB: Yarran Duigan McInnes
C: Scotland Robinson Gibbs
HF: Betts Watson Garlett
F: Collins Thornton Armfield
Foll: Casboult Murphy Carrazzo
Int: Russell McLean Curnow Bell
Emerg: Ellard White Dale


Actually, looking at that, given Bower's in, Watson may actually play forward. I hope not. Rather have Watson and Bower in defence, given the Dogs don't have real KP forwards any, and Jamison at CHF. Jammo can do less damage to us up forward the way he is going, and you never know, it might do him good. At least he's a target.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:44 pm 
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Cue in rack?

Ratt's presser on Tuesday said that a few blokes will be give a go in the next month
To start or save their career.

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