I guess we will take him at his word then.

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I am just assuming (or hoping) he will play. Not much else.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Not a bad side though I would probably swap Collins and Touhy and play Scotland instead of O'Keefe
Also, I don't think you could really select Waite this week - he needs some VFL time otherwise he will be out for the rest of the season

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Yeah Pysch, I probably didn't make it clear but I agree with a lot of that.

In regards to Boyd I was advocating more of a 'hurt them the other way by playing an outside player on an inside player tactic', like some teams try and do to Judd. Mclean to me would be more of a negative tag, as even if he does get his hands on it I cant see the WB coaching staff being overly worried and would just back Boyd to eventual do more damage in this area.

As for Griffin I still think some time has to be put into guys like him. Call it tagging, accountability, or whatever. If we look at other top sides West Coast still use Selwood, Geelong have T.Hunt taking over from Ling, Adelaide Van Berlo etc We bagged Collingwood for doing the complete opposite and giving the likes of Judd and Yarran too much space only a week ago.

It's all about finding the balance. Going to far the other way runs the risk of the old 'downhill skiers' tag and turns the side into another Matty Knightsesque type unit.

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I thought Collins was really good when he went back last week. He played there in the pre season and looked good as well. I honestly don't know why he hasn't played there again.

As for Touhy, I have been a fan since he arrived. Never seen a kid pick up true game so quickly and look so natural. I have always felt he will develop into a mid who can kick goals. Time for that to happen.

Anyway, just my opinions. In reality we will dish up the same crap again.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Fully understand. I was just trying to get away from those tactics although thats the way it will probably happen. IMO Armfield would be the right person for Griffen.

Carrots is probably the perfect guy for Boyd and would beat him but with Judd out we need to win the ball and Carrots is as good as anyone we have.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Boyd had 37 touches last week yet his team got reamed by 12 goals....why don't we try something new this week and tag nobody and focus on our strengths and use those to win this game....

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This. I think Sedat even said recently he didn't want Boyd to get the ball..

Anyway I thought Jamo was going to be rubbed out for killing someone, what happened there?

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That's right and the end of the day, anything we come up with will probably be only be this weeks solution. With a 99% chance of a new coach, it's not like we can even use the 7 weeks as an early stepping stone for 2013.

It takes time to teach a certain mindset, continuity, predictability, confidence in each other, game plan, roles etc.

Once all that comes in you can then add versatility, so really anything we come up with is probably trying to run before we've properly learnt to crawl.

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I expect:

B Tuohy Jamison Yarran
HB Scotland Watson McInnes
C Robinson McLean Gibbs
HF Garlett Henderson Collins
F Betts Waite Lucas
R Casboult Murphy Carrazzo
INT Curnow Armfield Duigan Ellard

In: Ellard, Tuohy, Casboult, Waite
Out: Joseph, Walker, Judd, Kreuzer

I'd go with:

B Duigan Jamison Watson
HB McInnes Henderson Scotland
C Lucas McLean Armfield Robinson
HF Yarran Gibbs Collins
F Betts Garlett
R Casboult Murphy Carrazzo
INT Ellard, Dale, Curnow, Russell

Play a smaller forward line - force their hand with Lake/Hargrave/Williams/Markovic. In turn play a taller backline, beat them at their own game, let Boyd rack up 40 touches and bomb it long to our talls. Russell isn't a great inclusion, but probably a must, both from the above, but also could play a role on Griffen as well. Gibbs at centre half forward and keeping Robert Murphy honest would be a good move for mine also.

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Rhino, tried similar last week and failed.

Grima, Firrito, McMahon and Thompson are all bigger type backs, but our small forwards couldn't exploit any supposed advantage. On the flipside they would probably take full advantage of it with the likes of Higgins and Daulhaus having a field day against such a top heavy backline that you've named.

WB dont have a Petrie, Tarrant, or probably not even a Hansen so surely we dont need to play Henderson back with Watson, Duigan and Jamison back there.

Anyway I reckon they'll take one look at our side and leave someone like Markovic out.

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Don't you dare get my hopes up.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Therein lies our biggest problem. Highly unlikely to make finals and if we lose definitely won't.

So what do we do. 6-7 weeks to go and a team that has no confidence and playing a predictable and incoherent game style? This is why keeping Ratten until the end of the year is wrong.

If he is going at years end (and he must) we need to get something out of the remaining games and that has to be getting some games into the kids and restoring some confidence in others.

The need to appoint a caretaker with this simple agenda is important. Unfortunately i have as much faith in the current hierarchy to make the tough calls as I do Ratten.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

MRP chook lotto.

They knew they were screwing us with Judd, so they let Jamo off?

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We should have got a senior game into Casbolt last week. We cannot pick and choose at the moment and need to get games into our KPPs. We are running low.

If we had have played him in the forward 50 arc last week, I still think he would have done alright and he would have brought our small forwards into the game.

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It is not as bad as you are lead to believe.......it is %$#^& worse!!!

More like they let him off, he's been a liability lately and could cost us the win.

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i would like to see,
duigan jamison mcInnes
yarran watson scotland
lucas gibbs touhy
garlett henderson robinson
collins mitchell betts
kreuzer murphy carrazzo
mclean armfield curnow dale[sub]
out's; joseph, judd, walker
in's; mitchell, dale, touhy

will not happen, but as the season is over, i hope that dale gets a chance, likewise mitchell.
mitchell does not have to kick 3 or 4[although it would be nice], just get a few games into him.
rapt that mcInnes, collins and watson continue to play good footy.
lucas needs to play the last 7 games, not as sub, just give the kid some confidence.
just my thoughts

Really hope that McInnes, Watson and Collins keep getting played for the rest of the season. Not sure how they fit into the MC's idea of things. Well, I know that Collins doesn't seem to as he is first dropped or subbed. I trust that McInnes keeps going and not going to be rested after a strenuous run of 2 games. (Besides - I want to bring him in my Dreamteam).

For the love of all that is Navy, please don't bring Waite straight back in. Play him in the twos. They said they would last week, but now, all of a sudden, they might not. As mentioned by another poster, he doesn't start well from long breaks. And if the Kreuze is injured - stop playing him. Rest him and play Levi, with Thornton as backup or 3rd man up.

Also hope that Hendo goes forward and stays there. Even if that means Waite goes back to CHB, or on the Wing ala Richo. He has been great down back, but looks good up forward and could be what we need up there.

Walker and Judd are forced outs. Joseph out for me too, even if he is fit to play. Hopefully Touhy is back, and another kid or fat arse gets a go. Russell might even get a go with the injuries we have. If we do - back him and give him a month and see if he can get back his form or confidence or whatever he used to have.

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Play Bargearse!!!!

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